Quantum Physics: electron within the nucleus.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the smallest allowed energy of an electron trapped within an atomic nucleus with a diameter of 1.4x10^-14 meters. Participants clarify that the problem does not pertain to the Bohr model but rather involves the Uncertainty Principle to determine the electron's kinetic energy. The calculations yield a result of approximately 1900 MeV to 1995 MeV, indicating that electrons are not expected to reside within the nucleus due to the high energy required for such confinement.

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Calculate the smallest allowed energy of an electron were trapped inside an atomic nucleus of diameter 1.4x10^-14 meters. Compare this number with the several MeV of energy binding protons and neutrons inside the nucleus. On this basis, should we expect to find electrons within the nucleus?




I'm experiencing some confusion regarding what this statement is asking.

Do I assume that the question pertains to a one proton nucleus, under the Bohr model? However it states energies between protons and neutrons so the Bohr model must not pertain to the question.

I can find the electric potential of the electron if I know how many protons are contained within the nucleus. Do I use:

r = roA1/3 to find the number of protons?

Thereafter use U = k q1*q2/r to find the potential. Is this how this is done.

The correct answer should be 1900MeV.

Thanks
 
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I think it has nothing to do with protons.

I think they just want you to use a 'potential well'. Meaning V(r) = 0 if r <= R, and V(r) = [oo] if r > R.
 
Originally posted by frankR
Calculate the smallest allowed energy of an electron were trapped inside an atomic nucleus of diameter 1.4x10^-14 meters.

OK

Do I assume that the question pertains to a one proton nucleus, under the Bohr model? However it states energies between protons and neutrons so the Bohr model must not pertain to the question.

No, I think this is a simple exercise in using the Uncertainty Principle. You have a &Delta;x (the size of the nucleus). From that you can calculate a &Delta;p, which is the smallest allowed momentum. From that you can calculate the smallest allowed KE.
 
Tom: You're correct, I got 1995MeV.:smile:
 

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