Quantum potential problem -- Particle confined in 1 dimension

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The problem involves a particle with mass m and charge e confined to one dimension, experiencing a specific potential defined for x ≥ 0. The task is to demonstrate that a proposed wave function can satisfy the Schrödinger equation and to derive an expression for the energy of the particle.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the substitution of the wave function into the Schrödinger equation and the subsequent differentiation. There are attempts to equate coefficients to find the constant α and the energy expression. Some participants express confusion about their calculations and seek clarification on specific terms in their equations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and corrections. There is recognition of potential mistakes in differentiation and the need for careful handling of terms. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the equations, but no consensus on the solution has been reached.

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There are indications of typographical errors in the expressions shared, and participants are encouraged to clarify their notation for better understanding. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to resolve uncertainties in the problem setup and calculations.

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Homework Statement


A particle with mass m and electric charge e is confined to move in one dimension along the x -axis. It experiences the following potential: V(x) = infinity when x<0, V(x) = -e^2/4*pi*ε*x when x≥0
For the region x ≥ 0 , by substituting in the Schrödinger equation, show that the wave function
u(x) = C*x*exp(-αx) can be a satisfactory solution of the Schrödinger equation so long as the constant α is suitably chosen. Determine the unique expression for α in terms of m , e and other fundamental constants. Note that C is a normalisation constant.then Show that the energy of the particle represented by u (x) is given by
E = -m*e^4/ 2(4*pi*ε*ħ)^2
This has me really stumped, can't show that the energy is equal to the equation above.

Homework Equations


Schrödinger equation

The Attempt at a Solution


attempt:
d^2(u(x))/dx^2 = ((E - V(x))2m/ħ^2)u(x) rearranging the Schrödinger equation
and
d^2(u(x))/dx^2 = (α^2 - 2α/x)C*x*exp(-αx)
so
((E - V(x))2m/ħ^2) = (α^2 - 2α/x) equating coefficients
this is where i get stuck. Any help apreciated
 
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gabz220 said:

Homework Statement


A particle with mass m and electric charge e is confined to move in one dimension along the x -axis. It experiences the following potential: V(x) = infinity when x<0, V(x) = -e^2/4*pi*ε*x when x≥0
For the region x ≥ 0 , by substituting in the Schrödinger equation, show that the wave function
u(x) = C*x*exp(-αx) can be a satisfactory solution of the Schrödinger equation so long as the constant α is suitably chosen. Determine the unique expression for α in terms of m , e and other fundamental constants. Note that C is a normalisation constant.then Show that the energy of the particle represented by u (x) is given by
E = -m*e^2/ 2(4*pi*ε*ħ)^2
This has me really stumped, can't show that the energy is equal to the equation above.

Homework Equations


Schrödinger equation

The Attempt at a Solution


attempt:
d^2(u(x))/dx^2 = ((E - V(x))2m/ħ^2)u(x) rearranging the Schrödinger equation
and
d^2(u(x))/dx^2 = (xα^2 - 2α)C*x*exp(-αx) (***)
so
((E - V(x))2m/ħ^2) = (xα^2 - 2α) equating coefficients
this is where i get stuck. Any help apreciated

(***) You might want to check your differentiation.
 
I have, i can't see the mistake; i even wolfram alpha'd it and it gave me the same awnser
 
gabz220 said:
I have, i can't see the mistake; i even wolfram alpha'd it and it gave me the same awnser

There must be one term without a factor of x. ##f(x) = xg(x) \ \Rightarrow \ f''(x) = 2g'(x) + xg''(x)##
 
PeroK said:
There must be one term without a factor of x. ##f(x) = xg(x) \ \Rightarrow \ f''(x) = 2g'(x) + xg''(x)##
Your right, sorry, i copied it down wrong. I have been working with the correct derivative though and i still can't do it.
question now corrected
 
gabz220 said:
Your right, sorry, i copied it down wrong. I have been working with the correct derivative though and i still can't do it.
question now corrected

Hint: when are two polynomials equal?
 
You may also have mistyped the answer. I get ##E = \frac{-me^4}{2(4\pi \epsilon \hbar)^2}##
 
PeroK said:
You may also have mistyped the answer. I get ##E = \frac{-me^4}{2(4\pi \epsilon \hbar)^2}##
Yeah that was the answer.
thanks for the help
 
Hello gabz, :welcome:

Interesting exercise.
In the future, Could you use brackets in appropriate places when posting ? For example, I assume your potential is $$
V(x) = -{e^2\over 4 \pi \epsilon_0 \; x} \ \rm ?
$$
 
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BvU said:
Hello gabz, :welcome:

Interesting exercise.
In the future, Could you use brackets in appropriate places when posting ? For example, I assume your potential is $$
V(x) = -{e^2\over 4 \pi \epsilon_0 \; x} \ \rm ?
$$
yeah, sorry about that. Made quite a few mistakes, ill be more careful next time
 

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