Quantum Well Problems: Solving Large K1 and K2 Values

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The discussion revolves around quantum well problems in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the calculation of wave numbers K1 and K2 derived from energy states. Participants are exploring the implications of large values for K1 and K2 and questioning potential unit conversion errors in their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate K1 and K2 using the formulas K1=sqrt(2*m*E/h^2) and K2=sqrt(2*m*(V-E)/h^2) while converting energy and well depth from electronvolts to joules. There are questions regarding the correctness of unit conversions and the resulting large values for K1 and K2.

Discussion Status

Some participants have shared their calculations and expressed confusion over the large values obtained for K1 and K2. There is a mention of boundary conditions and relationships derived from the quantum well setup, with indications that the graphical approach to finding intersections may not yield expected results. No consensus has been reached on the source of the discrepancies.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of specific values for energy, well depth, and mass, and are attempting to reconcile their calculations with expected outcomes from textbook examples. There is an emphasis on ensuring correct unit conversions and the implications of large wave numbers in the context of quantum mechanics.

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I just took up my first course of quantum mechanics and i am having some serious problems solving quantum well problems.the thing is that after i take out the energy states of the well
and try to find K1 and K2 from it, the values i get are very very large.i think i am making a msitake with units somewhere.here r the units that i am taking.can someone please point out where I am making a mistake.

K1=sqrt(2*m*E/h^2)
K2=sqrt(2*m*(V-E)/h^2)

E=energy(i am converting ev to Joules)
V=well depth(i am again converting ev to J)
m=e mass(9.1e-31)
h=1.054e-34 J.s
all lengths in meters

So if for example E=.245ev ,V=.36ev,what values of K1 and K2 should i be getting.

Thanx
 
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h = 4.1*10^-15 eVs
 
fahmed6 said:
I just took up my first course of quantum mechanics and i am having some serious problems solving quantum well problems.the thing is that after i take out the energy states of the well
and try to find K1 and K2 from it, the values i get are very very large.i think i am making a msitake with units somewhere.here r the units that i am taking.can someone please point out where I am making a mistake.

K1=sqrt(2*m*E/h^2)
K2=sqrt(2*m*(V-E)/h^2)

E=energy(i am converting ev to Joules)
V=well depth(i am again converting ev to J)
m=e mass(9.1e-31)
h=1.054e-34 J.s
all lengths in meters

So if for example E=.245ev ,V=.36ev,what values of K1 and K2 should i be getting.

Thanx
Yes, the Ks will be large numbers in units of m^-1 (very short wavelengths => very large wavenumbers).

What values do you get?
 
my k's are very large and whenever i use them in a problem the answer is not right.im posting an example from a book to illustrate what I am saying.

For a single quantum well
K1=sqrt(2*m*E/h^2)
K2=sqrt(2*m*(V-E)/h^2)

aplpplying theb boundary conditions on the well gives us
plot(1)
k1=k2*tan(k2*a/2)
-k1=k2*cot(k2*a/2)

an additional relationship is obtained
plot(2)
k1^2+k2^2=*m*V/h^2

which would be a circle.ploting the above would give me the k1 and k1 values at the points of intersection of the grfaph and from that i can find the values for E using the above realtion.

if well width=a=10e-10m
well depth=V=.347ev
m=9.1e-31
the ans is E1=.12660ev E2=.3413ev

I can't get this answer!
 
ploting plot(1) and plot(2) should give me the values of Ks at the point of intesection of the two plots.BUt my plots don't even intersect at any point!
 

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