Quaternion Polynomial Equation

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The discussion revolves around the equation "Prove that x^2 - 1=0" has infinitely many solutions in the division ring Q of quaternions. Participants explore the implications of this equation within the context of quaternion algebra, including representations and properties of quaternions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a method for solving the equation using quaternion representation and concludes that the unique solution appears to be 1.
  • Another participant questions the formulation of the problem, suggesting that x^2 + 1 = 0 would be expected to have infinitely many solutions, while x^2 - 1 = 0 should yield only two solutions.
  • A third participant discusses the properties of quaternion conjugates and suggests that if q is a quaternion satisfying q = q^{-1}, then q must be real, reinforcing the idea that x^2 - 1 = 0 has only two real solutions, 1 and -1.
  • A later reply clarifies that the original problem was not a typo, indicating that the context of the problem was misread and thanking others for their input.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the number of solutions to the equation, with some asserting that there are only two solutions while others explore the possibility of infinitely many solutions in the context of quaternions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the equation in quaternion algebra.

Contextual Notes

There is a potential misunderstanding regarding the formulation of the problem, as well as the properties of quaternions and their solutions. The discussion highlights the complexity of quaternion algebra and the interpretations of polynomial equations within this framework.

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I'm working on the following:

"Prove that x^2 - 1=0" has infinitely many solutions in the division ring Q of quaternions."

The Quaternions are presented in my book in the representation as two-by-two square matrices over ℂ. The book gives that for a quaternion


(sorry for the terrible notation, I wasn't able to figure out how to do a matrix in here and I didn't want to do the tex by hand)
\stackrel{a+bi\ \ c+di}{-c+di\ \ a-bi}

has inverse

\frac{1}{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\stackrel{a-bi\ \ -c-di}{c-di\ \ a+bi}.

Now if x^2-1=0, then clearly x=x^{-1}. This means that the individual components must be equal, so a+bi is a real multiple of its conjugate, which requires that it is real, and that multiple is one, or that it is imaginary, and that multiple is -1. Since the multiple is identically positive (sum of squares) b=d=0, and since the multiple must equal 1, a^2+c^2=1. This gives us

\stackrel{a\ \ c}{-c\ \ a}=\stackrel{a\ \ -c}{c\ \ a},

so c=-c=0. Therefore, a=1, which seems to imply that 1 (the quaternion unity) is the unique solution.

What am I missing?
 
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Are you sure there isn't a typo in the question? I would expect x^2 + 1 = 0 to have infinitely many solutions. x^2 - 1 = 0 should have two solutions.
 
if q* is the quaternial conjugate, then qq* is real. note that q-1 = q*/|q|, so from q = q-1, we get q = q*/|q|, implying that q is real.

but x2 -1 = 0 has just two real solutions, 1 and -1.

if it IS a typo, consider (ai + bj + ck)2, where a2+b2+c2 = 1 (which has infinitely many solutions (a,b,c)).
 
In fact, it wasn't a typo at all. The problem just before it references the polynomial x^2-1 over an entirely different field, and I misread. Apologies, and thanks for your help!
 

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