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The discussion revolves around the properties of eigenvalues and eigenvectors in the context of linear algebra, specifically addressing the assumptions related to eigenvectors forming a basis for a vector space and the implications of coefficients in linear combinations.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between eigenvectors and their ability to form a basis, questioning the necessity of non-zero coefficients in linear combinations of these eigenvectors. There is also a discussion about the implications of having distinct eigenvalues and the conditions under which eigenvectors are considered a basis.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing differing perspectives on the assumptions made about eigenvectors and their linear independence. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of basis vectors and the flexibility of coefficients in linear combinations, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating the implications of having distinct eigenvalues and the conditions under which eigenvectors are considered a basis for the vector space in question. There is a focus on the linear independence of eigenvectors and the assumptions surrounding the coefficients in their linear combinations.

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If we have a matrix with n distinct eigenvalues I understand why we have n distinct eigenvectors.

My question is why is it if we have x[itex]_{1}[/itex]...x[itex]_{n}[/itex] eigenvectors of A with the largest eigenvalue equal to 1 and the rest of the eigenvalues are less than or equal to one, why can we assume that for any y[itex]_{0}[/itex] = c[itex]_{1}[/itex] x[itex]_{1}[/itex] + . . .+c[itex]_{n}[/itex] x[itex]_{n}[/itex]

for some constants c[itex]_{1}[/itex] ..c[itex]_{n}[/itex] with c[itex]_{1}[/itex] [itex]\neq[/itex]0.

Why does c[itex]_{1}[/itex] [itex]\neq[/itex]0.?

I am assuming that we can get any vector because the eigenvectors form a basis for the space we are in.
 
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What are you actually trying to prove? Just because 1 is the largest eigenvalue there's no reason why the eigenvectors must be a basis. They might not be. And if you are given that x1..xn are a basis there is no reason why c1 must be nonzero. Suppose y0=x2?
 
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I wasnt trying to prove anything I was trying to uderstand why the statement is written the way it is. The eigen vectors are linearly independent so since there is n of them doesn't that mean they form a basis?
 
If an n by n matrix has n independent eigenvectors, then you can take the eigenvectors to be a basis (you can take any n independent vectors to be a basis for an n dimensional space).

But I don't understand what you mean by "for any y 0 = c 1 x 1 + . . .+c n x n".
What does the "for any" mean here? If you just mean that any vector in the space can be written as a linear combination of the basis vectors, of course that is true. But it is NOT true that c1 cannot be 0. For example, if y0 is any vector you can take y0= xn. In that case, cn= 1 while all other coefficients, including c1, are 0.
 

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