Question about basic concept of solving system of equations

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The discussion revolves around the basic concept of solving systems of equations, specifically focusing on the reasoning behind adding equations to find solutions. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings and practical implications of this method, touching on aspects of matrix algebra and simultaneous equations.

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  • One participant questions why adding equations can solve a system, expressing a desire for clarification on what seems like a simple concept.
  • Another participant explains that adding the same number to both sides of an equation maintains the solution set, and extends this idea to adding equations together, providing an example with specific equations.
  • A participant expresses appreciation for the explanation and reflects on their understanding of treating variables as equal, suggesting that simultaneous equations imply specific values for the variables that satisfy all equations.
  • Some participants reiterate the simplicity of the concept and express gratitude for the clarification provided by others.
  • One participant emphasizes that adding or subtracting equations can eliminate a variable, leading to the solution for the other variable, followed by substitution to find the remaining value.

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Participants generally agree on the reasoning behind adding equations to solve systems, but there are varying levels of understanding and comfort with the concepts involved. Some express confusion while others feel reassured by the explanations.

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Some participants mention feeling hesitant to ask questions about basic concepts, indicating a potential barrier to understanding. The discussion also highlights different approaches to conceptualizing the equality of variables in simultaneous equations.

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Readers interested in foundational concepts of algebra, particularly those learning about systems of equations or seeking clarification on solving techniques.

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why does adding equations solve the system of equations? I've taken matrix algebra but, to be honest, was too bashful to ask such a simple question. :P
 
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You can always add the same number to both sides of an equation, to get a new equation with the same solution set (an equivalent equation).

For example, if your equation is x - 2 = 5, you can add 2 to both sides, getting x = 7.

For the same reason you can add one side of an equation to one side of a 2nd equation, and add the other side of the first equation to the 2nd equation. Since both sides of an equation represent the same number, you are adding the same quantity (in different forms) to another equation.

Suppose you have this system:
x + y = 3 (eqn 1)
x - y = 1 (eqn 2)

If I add the left side of equation 1 to the left side of equation 2, and the right side of equation 1 to the right side of equation 2, I get this equation:
2x = 4, from which I get x = 2. I can then use either of my original equations to solve for y, which of course is 1.

You can extend this idea to adding a multiple of one equation to another. The equation being added states that two quantities are equal. I can multiply both sides of that equation by whatever I want (other than 0) to get an equivalent equation. The revised equation can be added to another equation, just as in the previous example.
 
much appreciated, mark44. one of the things that bothered me is why you can treat the x's and y's of each equation as the same value. but your response put me on the right track to clearing that up too, because if you think about it in two steps it makes sense.

(if anyone else has been bothered by this also, here is the way I'm thinking about it now):
if you take y's equal at any given point, but let the x's from each equation, x_1, and x_2 be anything, then you can add the two equations together to find that when y's are equal, you have x_1 + x_2 = 4. but we're interested when it is also the case that x_1 = x_2, so we have that 2*x = 4 and x = 2.

i don't know why i sometimes get hung up on such things when others don't but this was very helpful. thanks again.
 
lustrog said:
much appreciated, mark44. one of the things that bothered me is why you can treat the x's and y's of each equation as the same value. but your response put me on the right track to clearing that up too, because if you think about it in two steps it makes sense.
Because they are the same value! That's exactly what the "simultaneous" in "simultaneous equations" means- find specific values of x, y, etc. that satisfy all of the equations.

(if anyone else has been bothered by this also, here is the way I'm thinking about it now):
if you take y's equal at any given point, but let the x's from each equation, x_1, and x_2 be anything, then you can add the two equations together to find that when y's are equal, you have x_1 + x_2 = 4. but we're interested when it is also the case that x_1 = x_2, so we have that 2*x = 4 and x = 2.

i don't know why i sometimes get hung up on such things when others don't but this was very helpful. thanks again.
 
lol. yes i guess it really is that simple. thanks for helping me along though.
 
lustrog said:
why does adding equations solve the system of equations? I've taken matrix algebra but, to be honest, was too bashful to ask such a simple question. :P

To directly answer your question you do it [aadding or subtracting] because it eliminates one of the two variables and leads to the value for the other variable. Then substitution back to either original equation yields the other value.
 

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