Question about normal friction and acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two boxes, one pushing the other, with a focus on normal friction and acceleration in a frictionless scenario. The original poster presents a situation where a 60 kg box pushes a 30 kg box, and they seek to understand the normal force and acceleration of the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the concept of normal friction versus normal force, questioning the terminology used in the problem. There is also a discussion about the implications of friction being eliminated and the nature of forces acting between the boxes.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing clarifications regarding the definitions of normal force and friction. There is an indication of confusion about the terms used in the problem, and participants are attempting to align their understanding of the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a separate scenario involving a body on a slope, which raises questions about motion and acceleration under varying conditions. This context may influence the understanding of forces in the original problem.

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Homework Statement


A 60 kg box which in turn pushes a 30 kg box move on wheels so friction is eliminated. The push is 30 N horizontally


Homework Equations


What is the acceration on the system of boxes and what is Normal friction of the 60 kg box on the 30 kg box?


The Attempt at a Solution

The normal friction is 9.8 x60 but I don't know if normal friction can only be hortizontal.
 
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Hi. I have a question. A body is lying on a slope. We increase the slope until the body starts to move. So my question is, if we stop increasing the slope when the body starts to move will de body maintain constant speed going down, or may it accelerate until it reaches the bottom?
 
Lee Colombo said:

Homework Statement


A 60 kg box which in turn pushes a 30 kg box move on wheels so friction is eliminated. The push is 30 N horizontally


Homework Equations


What is the acceration on the system of boxes and what is Normal friction of the 60 kg box on the 30 kg box?


The Attempt at a Solution

The normal friction is 9.8 x60 but I don't know if normal friction can only be hortizontal.
You (or the problem) are using the wrong terms. The problem states there is no friction (between the boxes and the floor), and it should be asking what is the normal force (the horizontal force that one box exerts on the other perpendicular to (normal to) their surfaces in contact with each other) between the two. The force you have calculated is the normal force of the floor on the 60 kg box. What you want is the normal force between the 2 boxes. Are you at all familiar with Free Body Diagrams?
 

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