Question about parallel plate stuff

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a cell membrane modeled as a parallel plate capacitor. Participants explore the electric field, force on an ion, potential difference, and kinetic energy related to charge movement between the membranes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for the electric field and potential difference, questioning the accuracy of the original poster's results and the significance of significant figures in their computations.

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There is an ongoing examination of the calculations presented, with some participants suggesting that the original poster's answer for the electric field may be low. Guidance is provided regarding the importance of maintaining significant figures throughout calculations.

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Participants note the presence of a figure accompanying the problem and discuss the implications of rounding answers to match the precision of the inputs.

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Homework Statement


A cell membrane consists of an inner and outer wall separated by a distance of approximately 10 nm. Assume that the walls act like a parallel plate capacitor, each with a charge density of 10^−5C/m^2, and the outer wall is positively charged. Although unrealistic, assume that the space between cell walls is filled with air.

Part A
What is the magnitude of the electric field between the membranes? Answer: 1*10^6 N/C

Part B
What is the magnitude of the force on a K+ ion between the cell walls? Answer: 2*10^-13 N

Part C
What is the potential difference between the cell walls? Answer: 1*10^-2 V

Question : If released from the inner wall, what would be the kinetic energy of a 7 fC charge at the outer wall? 1fC = 10^−15C.

Homework Equations


KE = q*Delta(v)

The Attempt at a Solution


I have solved each of the other parts of this question. I found that Delta V was 1×10^−2V. The question states that 1fC is 10^-15 C. I plugged in for KE = (7*10^-15)(0.01V), and keep getting 7*10^-17. However the answer is 8*10^-17. Can anyone catch my mistake, or am i using the wrong formula?
 
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Hi johnknee. :welcome:

There is a figure to accompany this problem, I believe?
 
johnknee said:

Homework Statement

How did you compute part A? Your answer is low by about 11.3%.
 
For part A, I used the equation E = charge density/Permittivity of free space = 10^-5/(8.85*10^-12) = 1*10^6 N/C
 
johnknee said:
10^-5/(8.85*10^-12) = 1*10^6 N/C
= 1.13×106 N/C
 
johnknee said:
For part A, I used the equation E = charge density/Permittivity of free space = 10^-5/(8.85*10^-12) = 1*10^6 N/C
Your calculator needs to show more decimal points!
 
Yeah I have many decimal points haha, it's just that the answer given by masteringphysics is in 1 sig fig.
 
johnknee said:
Yeah I have many decimal points haha, it's just that the answer given by masteringphysics is in 1 sig fig.
Well, yer' not likely to master it with that! LOL
 
johnknee said:
Yeah I have many decimal points haha, it's just that the answer given by masteringphysics is in 1 sig fig.
It's ok to round the answer to 1 sig fig to match the precision of the inputs, but you should keep more digits throughout the calculation in between.
 

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