Question about path resulting from acceleration

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The discussion revolves around the motion of an object experiencing constant accelerations in two dimensions that are equal in magnitude. Participants are exploring the implications of this scenario on the object's path, considering various geometric interpretations.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of constant equal accelerations in both dimensions, with some attempting to derive the relationship between displacement in x and y coordinates. Others question the assumptions made in the problem statement, particularly regarding initial conditions and the nature of the motion.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants provide mathematical derivations while others seek simpler, more intuitive explanations. There is a recognition of potential ambiguities in the problem statement, prompting further inquiry.

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There is uncertainty regarding the initial conditions of the object, specifically whether it starts from rest. Participants note that the problem may lack clarity, which could affect the interpretation of the motion described.

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Homework Statement


If an object moves with non-zero, constant accelerations in two dimensions which are equal in magnitude, its path is

1) linear
2) hyperbolic
3) elliptical
4) parabolic
5) circular


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The Attempt at a Solution


apparently, the correct answer is 1. How is that even possible. Thanks in advance for the input.
 
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Take an example...

Imagine an object starts from rest at the origin x,y = 0,0
Then it starts moving and accelerates at the same rate in x and y.
After time t, what will the x and y components of the displacement be?
 
x: 0.5 * acceleration in x direction * t^2
y: 0.5 * acceleration in y direction * t^2
 
Let Ax be the acceleration in the x direction
and Ay be the acceleration in the y direction

Let Ax=k1 ; Ay = k2

Integrate to get
Velocity
Vx = k1t + c1 ; Vy = k2t + c2

Again integrate to get
Position
Sx = (k1t^2)/2 + c1t + d1 -(I)
Sy= (k2t^2)/2 + c2t + d2 -(II)

Multiply (I) by k2 and (II) by k1
Then Subtract to get a linear relation between Sx and Sy.
 
@Sahil Kukreja, I see how your approach works, but this question is intended to be solved in a simple manner. I believe this method overcomplicates it. Is there any way to do this with some geometrical intuition?

Thanks!
 
RoboNerd said:
x: 0.5 * acceleration in x direction * t^2
y: 0.5 * acceleration in y direction * t^2

acceleration in x direction = acceleration in y direction

So y = x which is a straight line.
 
I'm not sure I even understand the statement of the problem. I guess it means ax = ay = constant. But it doesn't say that the object starts at rest. It seems to me that you just have an object moving in 2 dimensions with a constant acceleration vector. Isn't the general motion parabolic, like projectile motion except the direction of the acceleration is not vertical?
 
Sahil Kukreja said:
Sx = (k1t^2)/2 + c1t + d1 -(I)
Sy= (k2t^2)/2 + c2t + d2 -(II)

Multiply (I) by k2 and (II) by k1
Then Subtract to get a linear relation between Sx and Sy.
Hi, Sahil.
This does not necessarily imply that the trajectory is linear because the relation still involves the time t explicitly.

Suppose y = ax + t where a is a constant and y and x are functions of time t. At time t1, the point (x,y) will lie on the line y = ax + t1. At time t2, (x,y) will lie on a different line y = ax + t2.
 
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Perhaps the RoboNerd can confirm that the problem statement is exactly as written in the OP?

It does look like there is something missing.
 
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TSny said:
Hi, Sahil.
This does not necessarily imply that the trajectory is linear because the relation still involves the time t explicitly.

Suppose y = ax + t where a is a constant and y and x are functions of time t. At time t1, the point (x,y) will lie on the line y = ax + t1. At time t2, (x,y) will lie on a different line y = ax + t2.
yes i think you are correct.
 

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