Question about point charges (electric field strengths)

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The problem involves two point charges, +15μC and +10μC, positioned 20mm apart. The original poster seeks to understand why there exists a point along the line between the two charges where the electric field strength is zero, and subsequently, to calculate the distances from this point to each charge.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the concept of electric field cancellation between the two charges and explore the mathematical relationships involved in calculating distances. Questions arise regarding the vector nature of electric fields and the relationship between the distances from the charges to the point of zero field strength.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in clarifying the reasoning behind the existence of a zero electric field point and have begun discussing the necessary calculations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the vector nature of electric fields and the relationship between the distances involved, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to express one distance in terms of the other due to the fixed distance between the charges, which adds complexity to the calculations.

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Homework Statement



A +15μC point charge Q1 is at a distance of 20mm from a +10μC charge Q2. Explain why there is a point along the line between the two charges at which the electric field strength is zero. After this, calculate the distance from this point to Q1 and Q2.

The Attempt at a Solution



First of all, I know that both charges are the same, so their electric fields act in repelling each other. I'm going to guess that the reason why there's a point in which electric field strength is zero, is because at this point, both charge's respectively fields cancel each other out in equal measures, leaving a net field strength of zero.

Is more explanation okay?


On the second part of the question where I'm asked to calculate the distance of this point from Q1 and Q2, I'm really stuck. I know the equation for finding the electric field strength of a charge is:

E = Q/(4*pi*e*r^2)

where, E = electric field strength, e = epsilon nought, r = distance between the charge and P, Q = charge.
 
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Hi curiousjoe! Welcome to PF :smile:

curiousjoe94 said:
I'm going to guess that the reason why there's a point in which electric field strength is zero, is because at this point, both charge's respectively fields cancel each other out in equal measures, leaving a net field strength of zero.

Yep, that's correct :approve:

On the second part of the question where I'm asked to calculate the distance of this point from Q1 and Q2, I'm really stuck. I know the equation for finding the electric field strength of a charge is:

E = Q/(4*pi*e*r^2)

where, E = electric field strength, e = epsilon nought, r = distance between the charge and P, Q = charge.

Assume that the electric field is zero at a distance x from the 15μC charge. What is the field due to the 15μC there? and the 10μC? What should be the relation between them?
 
curiousjoe94 said:
On the second part of the question where I'm asked to calculate the distance of this point from Q1 and Q2, I'm really stuck. I know the equation for finding the electric field strength of a charge is:

E = Q/(4*pi*e*r^2)

where, E = electric field strength, e = epsilon nought, r = distance between the charge and P, Q = charge.

Remember that the E in your equations is only the magnitude of the field strength. The field strength is actually a vector quantity, and points in the direction from the test charge to the actual charge. So you have to add the field strength vectors from the two actual charges to get the total field strength vector.

Chet
 
Infinitum said:
Hi curiousjoe! Welcome to PF :smile:
Yep, that's correct :approve:
Assume that the electric field is zero at a distance x from the 15μC charge. What is the field due to the 15μC there? and the 10μC? What should be the relation between them?

Chestermiller said:
Remember that the E in your equations is only the magnitude of the field strength. The field strength is actually a vector quantity, and points in the direction from the test charge to the actual charge. So you have to add the field strength vectors from the two actual charges to get the total field strength vector.

Chet

Right, here's what I get:

Field due to 15μC would be,

E = (15*10^-6)/(4*pi*e*x^2)

where x is the distance from 15μC charge and the point where net field strength is zeroField due to 10μC would be,

E = (10*10^-6)/(4*pi*e*y^2)

where y is the distance from the 10μC charge and the point where net field strength is zeo.Like chester said, I understand that I need to find the difference between (15*10^-6)/(4*pi*e*x^2) and (10*10^-6)/(4*pi*e*y^2) and then make it equal to zero (total resultant field strength), but that would still leave two unknowns, x and y. So I'm still unsure what to do.
 
curiousjoe94 said:
Right, here's what I get:

Field due to 15μC would be,

E = (15*10^-6)/(4*pi*e*x^2)

where x is the distance from 15μC charge and the point where net field strength is zeroField due to 10μC would be,

E = (10*10^-6)/(4*pi*e*y^2)

where y is the distance from the 10μC charge and the point where net field strength is zeo.Like chester said, I understand that I need to find the difference between (15*10^-6)/(4*pi*e*x^2) and (10*10^-6)/(4*pi*e*y^2) and then make it equal to zero (total resultant field strength), but that would still leave two unknowns, x and y. So I'm still unsure what to do.

Yes, but what is y in terms of x?? The total distance between the charges is given! And a part is x...and the whole is the sum of its parts... :rolleyes:

Chestermiller said:
The field strength is actually a vector quantity, and points in the direction from the test charge to the actual charge.

It actually points away from the direction of the test charge to actual charge as both are positive :smile:
 
Infinitum said:
Yes, but what is y in terms of x?? The total distance between the charges is given! And a part is x...and the whole is the sum of its parts... :rolleyes:

Oh of course!

x, and then 20 - x, I get it now

Thanks a lot!
 
curiousjoe94 said:
Oh of course!

x, and then 20 - x, I get it now

Thanks a lot!

Good job! :smile:
 

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