Question about Q=mcΔT when doing calorimetry

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The discussion revolves around the application of the equation Q=mcΔT in calorimetry, specifically addressing whether the mass (m) in the equation refers to the mass of the substance being tested alone or the combined mass of the substance and the water involved in the experiment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the mass used in Q=mcΔT should include only the mass of the substance or the combined mass of the substance and water.
  • Another participant suggests rearranging the equation to isolate specific heat (c) and questions what mass (m) would refer to in that context.
  • Some participants assert that mass (m) is for the substance only, not the sum of the mass of the water and substance.
  • There is a reference to the definition of specific heat, emphasizing that it relates to the energy required to raise the temperature of one unit mass of the substance by one degree.
  • A participant humorously mentions the specific heat of brine as an example.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on whether the mass in the equation should include only the substance or both the substance and the water, as participants express differing views on this matter.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of specific heat and the context of calorimetry problems, which may not be fully articulated or agreed upon by all participants.

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Homework Statement



When using the equation Q=mcΔT for the substance being tested is it the mass of the substance or the mass of the substance + mass of water.

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So when I solve calorimetry problems, I usually find Qwater. Then I set Qsubstance=-Qwater. But then I have to use mcΔT, I'm not sure if it's the mass of the substance or the mass of the substance + mass of the water because I've gotten a few questions wrong and the textbook briefly mentioned the sum of masses but gave no examples. Thanks for your input.
 
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Re-arrange your equation as follows:

c = \frac{Q}{mΔT}

Since 'c' is for the substance, what would 'm' be for?
 
m is for the substance right? Not the sum of the mass of the water and substance.
 
deezer said:
m is for the substance right? Not the sum of the mass of the water and substance.
Yes, and you can relate to the definition of specific heat: energy required to raise the temperature of one unit mass of the 'substance' on unit degree.
 
edgepflow said:
Yes, and you can relate to the definition of specific heat: energy required to raise the temperature of one unit mass of the 'substance' on unit degree.

Like specific heat of brine :-p
 

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