Question about Quantum Effective Action

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The discussion revolves around the concept of Quantum Effective Action as presented in Weinberg's Quantum Field Theory. Participants are examining specific aspects of the formulation, particularly the use of a shifted action and the significance of one-particle irreducible (1PI) and connected terms in the context of fixed fields.

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  • One participant questions the necessity of using a shifted action ##I[\phi + \phi_0]## in the context of Quantum Effective Action.
  • Another participant suggests that the presence of ##\phi_0## in vertices or propagators allows for the attachment of external lines, indicating a relationship between irreducible and reducible graphs.
  • A different participant expresses confusion regarding the relevance of the previous response and seeks further clarification on the role of 1PI graphs in the vacuum-vacuum amplitude.
  • One participant critiques the clarity of Weinberg's exposition, noting that the integral measure appears non-invariant under field shifts, which raises questions about the independence of the result from ##\phi_0##.
  • Another participant agrees that the measure must not be invariant, referencing Weinberg's comments on this point and expressing that they require more information beyond what Srednicki's book provides.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the clarity and correctness of Weinberg's formulation, with some agreeing on the non-invariance of the measure while others remain uncertain about the implications of the shifted action and the treatment of 1PI graphs.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions underlying the shifted action and the treatment of disconnected graphs in the context of Quantum Effective Action. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and understandings of the material presented in Weinberg's text.

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I am working on Quantum Effective Action in Weinberg QFT vol2 (page 67).

In the last paragraph of page 67, the author said
"Equivalently, ## i \Gamma [ \phi _0 ] ## for some fixed field ... with a shifted action ##I [ \phi + \phi_0 ]## :
i \Gamma [ \phi _0 ] = ∫_{1PI, CONNECTED} ∏_{r,x} d\phi^r (x) exp(iI[\phi+\phi_0])
In this equation, I don't understand two things;
First one is why we have to use a shifted action ##I [ \phi + \phi_0 ]##.
Second one is why we only take into account of one-particle irreducible and connected terms to get Quantum Effective Action for some fixed field ##\phi^{r}_0 (x)##.

Thank you.
 
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Weinberg has also written there that at any place where \phi_0 appears in vertices or propagators within 1PI graph is also a place where an external \phi line could be attached i.e. you can have reducible graphs made of irreducible ones.You can use exp(il-\phi_0) so that you can include disconnected graphs because when doing calculation for n point function those disconnected terms will come out as phases and cancel in numerator and denominator.
 
Thank you for your answer, but I don't see why your answer is relevant my question and don't understand either.

In previous paragraph in Weinberg book, for general field ##\phi^r (x)##, ##i \Gamma[\phi(x)]## must be the sum of all one-particle-irreducible connected graphs with arbitrary numbers of external lines, each external line corresponding to a factor ##\phi##
I think this is kind of obvious, because we consider ##i \Gamma[\phi(x)]## as action and it gives full amplitudes, so the coupling constants in ##i \Gamma[\phi(x)]## should be the renormalized one, in other words, it has to take into account of all one-particle-irreducible graphs.

But, for fixed field, I don't understand why we have the sum of one-particle-irreducible graphs for the vacuum-vacuum amplitude, which has no external lines, and why we have to use a shifted action.

I am sorry, but could you explain in more detail?
 
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This section is not up to Weinberg's usual standards of clarity. That "integral" is very weird; in particular, the measure isn't invariant under shifts of the field. (If it was, the result would have to be independent of ##\phi_0##.)

Try chapter 21 of Srednicki, draft version available here: http://web.physics.ucsb.edu/~mark/qft.html
 
I think the measure must not be invariant. If so, ##i \Gamma [ \phi_0 ] ## is independent of ##\phi_0##, and Weinberg mentioned about this point.

I have already read Srednicki book, but for me, that is not enough.

Thank you for your answer
 

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