Variation in Schwinger's quantum action principle

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The discussion centers on J. Schwinger's quantum action principle, particularly the restrictions on variations in quantum field theory (QFT) compared to quantum mechanics. Participants reference key texts, including "Quantum Kinematics and Dynamics" by Schwinger and "The Theory of Quantized Fields. I," where Schwinger imposes specific conditions on the commutation properties of variations. The rationale behind restricting variations to c-numbers in QFT is questioned, highlighting a lack of clarity in the literature regarding this distinction. The conversation suggests further exploration of the topic through additional resources, such as Toms' work on the Schwinger action principle.

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  • Understanding of Schwinger's quantum action principle
  • Familiarity with quantum mechanics and quantum field theory
  • Knowledge of Lagrangian mechanics
  • Comprehension of commutation relations in quantum theory
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  • Study "Quantum Kinematics and Dynamics" by J. Schwinger for foundational concepts
  • Examine "The Theory of Quantized Fields. I" for insights on variations in QFT
  • Research the implications of commutation relations in quantum field theory
  • Read "The Schwinger Action Principle and Effective Action" by Toms for advanced understanding
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This discussion is beneficial for theoretical physicists, graduate students in quantum mechanics, and researchers focusing on quantum field theory and the Schwinger action principle.

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At the moment I'm working with the quantum[/PLAIN] action principle of J. Schwinger. For this I read several paper and books (like: Quantum kinematics and dynamics by J. Schwinger, Schwinger's Quantum action principle by K.A. Milton, http://arxiv.org/abs/1503.08091, Introduction to quantum field theory by P. Roman and The Theory of Quantized Fields. I by J. Schwinger and some more).

Some authors restricted the variations to be c-numbers. But I don't really understand why this restriction makes sense?
Schwinger itself does not mentioned any restriction for quantum mechanics in his book "Quantum kinematics and dynamics". He also didn't assume that the variations commute with the other operators.

But he made some restriction for QFT in his paper "The Theory of Quantized Fields. I" under equation (2.17):

This expression for \delta_0 \mathcal{L} is to be understood symbolically, since the order of the operators in \mathcal{L} must not be altered in the course of effecting the variation. Accordingly, the commutation properties of \delta _0 \phi^a are involved in obtaining the consequences of the stationary requirement on the action integral. For simplicity, we shall introduce here the explicit assumption that the commutation properties of \delta _0 \phi^a and the structure of the lagrange function must be so related that identical contributions are produced by terms that differ fundamentally only in the position of \delta _0 \phi^a.

Why did Schwinger restrict the variations only in the case of quantum field theory?
 
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I am quite unsure what the OP is asking for. The Schwinger action principle involves the partition function written in terms of the effective action. I haven't come across the need to consider commutation relations when doing variations of the Lagrangian. Either way I will suggest another book from Toms, "The Schwinger Action Principle and Effective Action ".
 
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