Question about the Landau gauge

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter lion8172
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Gauge Landau
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Landau gauge in the context of a two-dimensional system of non-interacting particles subjected to a uniform magnetic field. Participants explore the implications of different vector potentials that yield the same magnetic field, specifically comparing the Landau gauge with the symmetric gauge, and discuss their respective advantages in calculations related to Landau levels.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of the Landau gauge and its implications regarding current flow direction.
  • Another participant asserts that the Landau gauge is chosen primarily for computational simplicity, allowing certain operators to commute with the Hamiltonian.
  • A third participant notes that using the Landau gauge leads to a harmonic oscillator in the y-direction and contrasts it with the symmetric gauge, which produces different eigenfunctions but is also valid.
  • It is mentioned that the symmetric gauge provides more information about the system as a 2D harmonic oscillator and simplifies calculations of degeneracies.
  • Participants acknowledge that both gauges yield the same magnetic field but may lead to different mathematical treatments and results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the utility and implications of the Landau gauge versus the symmetric gauge. There is no consensus on which gauge is superior, as each has its own advantages depending on the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on gauge choice and the resulting mathematical frameworks, with no resolution on the implications of these choices for physical interpretations.

lion8172
Messages
27
Reaction score
0
I was looking at a derivation of the Landau levels in a crystal, and I had a question about the Landau gauge. The situation under consideration is a two dimensional system of non-interacting particles, exposed to a uniform magnetic field B directed along the z-axis (perpendicular to the plane of the two-dimensional system). In the ''Landau gauge,'' it is claimed that the vector potential can be written as
[tex]\vec{A} = - By \hat{x}[/tex].
I can see, however, that the vector potential
[tex]\vec{A} = - \frac{1}{2}B(x \hat{y} - y \hat{x})[/tex]
would produce the same magnetic field. My questions are as follows. First, what is the Landau gauge? Secondly, does the selection of this gauge in this case correspond to the assumption that current flows in the x-direction?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
As far as I understand it, the vector potential

[tex] \vec{A} = - By \hat{x}[/tex]

is the definition of the Landau gauge. It doesn't correspond to any physical assumption - it's chosen just to simplify the calculation. If you choose this gauge, then the operator [itex]\hat{p}_x[/itex] commutes with the Hamiltonian, which means that you can write your solution as [itex]\psi(x,y)= e^{ip_xx/\hbar}\phi(y)[/itex]. You can then replace the operator [itex]\hat{p}_x[/itex] in the Hamiltonian by the eigenvalue [itex]p_x[/itex] and you're left with a relatively simple 1D (the variable [itex]y[/itex]) differential equation.
 
Just to supplement what jpr0 said, in the Landau gauge you end up with a harmonic oscillator in y. The other gauge you suggested is called the symmetric gauge, and it is also possible to do the maths in that gauge, and you will get different eigenfunctions. The resolution is that the states are massively degenerate in energy, so the different bases are transformable onto each other.

As a further aside, in the symmetric gauge it's useful to use z=x+iy and then employ some complex analysis. You get the rather (mathematically) pretty result that in the lowest Landau level the wavefunctions are psi = f(z) e^-|z|^2 where f(z) is any analytic function.
 
The potentials mentioned above of course assume that [tex]\mathbf{B}[/tex] points in the [tex]\hat{z}[/tex] direction. Of course, this is merely a coordinate choice. As far as I know, the second "symmetric gauge" that you quoted gives more information about the problem, i.e. as a 2D harmonic oscillator, and in this gauge it is much easier to calculate degeneracies. But the Landau gauge is useful if you want a quick answer.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
8K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K