Question about the possible non equivalent logical statements

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The discussion revolves around determining the number of unique (non-equivalent) logical statements that can be formed with a given number of logical variables, specifically focusing on cases with 1, 2, and 3 statements.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the number of logical variables and the possible logical statements, with initial attempts to list possibilities for 1 and 2 statements. Questions arise about the validity of certain logical expressions and their interpretations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about the number of logical statements and the implications of truth tables. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of logical statements and their truth values, but no consensus has been reached on the exact count of unique statements.

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There is some confusion regarding the definitions and interpretations of logical statements, particularly concerning the existence of certain expressions like (P and ~P) and (P or ~P). Participants are also considering how truth tables relate to the number of possible logical statements.

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I'm trying to figure out how many unique (non-equivalent) logical statements are possible with n statements...I think I could figure that out as soon as I see a pattern so I would like to know how many are possible for 2 statements and for 3 statements

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I know that for 1 statement there are two possibilities, namely, P and ~p. I think for two there are twelve possibilities: P,Q,~P,~Q, PVQ, P^Q, ~(PVQ),~(P^Q),P=>Q,Q=>P,Q<=>P,~(Q<=>P)..are those all the possibilities for 2 statements?
 
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I think you mean the number of inequivalent statements containing n logical variables, right? Think about the number of possible ways to fill out a truth table.
 
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uhh yes I think...like for n=3 it would be the statements P,Q, R and all the possible ways that they are connected..
I know that a truth table can be filled out 2^n ways..like that's how many rows there will be in the truth table
 
iceblits said:
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uhh yes I think...like for n=3 it would be the statements P,Q, R and all the possible ways that they are connected..
I know that a truth table can be filled out 2^n ways..like that's how many rows there will be in the truth table

Right. Now how many ways can you fill out the truth of the statement entry in the truth table?? For each line in the truth table you can write T or F, right?
 
yep so...its...2^n*(2^n)?..is it like if u have a true false test of say..ten questions then you have 2^10 different possibilities?..but this time the number of rows are 2^n
 
no wait...its 2^(2^n)
 
iceblits said:
no wait...its 2^(2^n)

Yes. You don't have to write out explicit statements for each case to know how many there are.
 
wait ...does that mean that for n=1 there's 2^2=4 different possibilities..I thought there was only 1 (P and ~P)
 
iceblits said:
wait ...does that mean that for n=1 there's 2^2=4 different possibilities..I thought there was only 1 (P and ~P)

There are four. P, ~P, T and F. Or P, ~P, (P and ~P) and (P or ~P) if you prefer. See?
 
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AHH I see I didnt think about that!..but are (P and ~P) and (P or ~P) logically...valid? like what do they mean..do such things exist ..such that (P and ~P) for example
 
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iceblits said:
AHH I see I didnt think about that!..but are (P and ~P) and (P or ~P) logically...valid? like what do they mean..do such things exist ..such that (P and ~P) for example

Of course they exist. (P or ~P) or (P V ~P) is always true. Isn't it? What about (P and ~P)?
 
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hmm the truth table would be:
P Q P^Q
T F F
F T F

So P^Q is false all the time...I guess that makes sense because u can't have something and "not something" at the same time
 
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iceblits said:
hmm the truth table would be:
P Q P^Q
T F F
F T F

So P^Q is false all the time...I guess that makes sense because u can't have something and "not something" at the same time

It's just like any other logical statement. It just happens to be false all the time. It's the opposite of a tautology.
 
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ooo..a contradiction? Thank-you so much again! Haha I wish you were my teacher!
 

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