Show that two quantified statements are logically equivalent

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating the logical equivalence of two quantified statements in predicate logic: ##\forall x(P(x) \land Q(x)) \equiv \forall xP(x) \land \forall xQ(x)##. Participants are exploring the implications of this equivalence and the necessary conditions for it to hold true.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to show that the biconditional is a tautology and question how to approach this given the infinite nature of predicate logic. There is mention of using universal generalization and the implications of the definitions of logical equivalence.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the definitions and implications of logical equivalence. Some suggest breaking down the biconditional into two conditionals to explore the relationship further. There is no explicit consensus on the approach yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the definitions involved.

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Participants are considering the definitions and theorems from propositional logic that may apply, such as universal generalization and existential instantiation. There is also a focus on the implications of showing one side being false and its effect on the other side.

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Show that ##\forall x(P(x) \land Q(x)) \equiv \forall xP(x) \land \forall xQ(x)##

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Based on my work from propositional logic, to show that two expressions are logically equivalent, then we have to show that ##\forall x(P(x) \land Q(x)) \Longleftrightarrow \forall xP(x) \land \forall xQ(x)## is a tautology; that is, it is always true. It is always true if they have the same truth values for all x in the domain. For propositional logic, it was a matter of listing out the finite combinations of truth values and showing that they are always the same. However, with predicate logic, we are dealing with an infinite domain of discourse, so we can't just list them off. How should I proceed then?
 
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Mr Davis 97 said:
Show that ##\forall (P(x) \land Q(x)) \equiv \forall P(x) \land \forall Q(x)##

What variable does ##\forall## quantify? Did you mean ##( \forall x, P(x) \land Q(x)\ ) \equiv (\forall x, P(x))\land(\forall x, Q(x)) ##.

What assumptions and theorems have you studied in proposition logic ? "Universal generalization", "Existential instantiation" etc. ?
 
Stephen Tashi said:
What variable does ##\forall## quantify? Did you mean ##( \forall x, P(x) \land Q(x)\ ) \equiv (\forall x, P(x))\land(\forall x, Q(x)) ##.

What assumptions and theorems have you studied in proposition logic ? "Universal generalization", "Existential instantiation" etc. ?
I fixed the errors in the original post.

I was thinking that maybe I could use universal generalization to show that, if the LHS is true, then ##P(a) \land Q(a)## is true for all a in the domain. Then by universal generalization, we would have the RHS. However, I don't see how this establishes that the biconditional is a tautology, which is necessary to show that they are logically equivalent.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
However, I don't see how this establishes that the biconditional is a tautology, which is necessary to show that they are logically equivalent.

A biconditional is just two conditionals. Show each separately.
 
Stephen Tashi said:
A biconditional is just two conditionals. Show each separately.
If I show that LHS implies the RHS, and that the RHS implies the LHS, then I would show that one being true implies that the other is true. But in order for it to be a tautology, don't you have to also show that if one is false than the other must be false as well?
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
If I show that LHS implies the RHS, and that the RHS implies the LHS, then I would show that one being true implies that the other is true. But in order for it to be a tautology, don't you have to also show that if one is false than the other must be false as well?

That will depend on how your text materials define the relation "##\equiv##".

Is there a theorem or definition in your materials that says: ## ( ( A \implies B) \land (B \implies A) ) \implies A \equiv B## ?
 
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Mr Davis 97 said:
But in order for it to be a tautology, don't you have to also show that if one is false than the other must be false as well?
It is always a good idea to start this way: What does it mean, if one side were wrong? Can the other still be true?
And then the other way around.
 
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