Question about using the word unique

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of the term "unique" in the context of pairing elements in mathematical relations. Participants explore the implications of stating that one element is paired with a unique element, particularly in relation to whether this implies exclusivity in pairing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that saying an element ##a## is paired with a unique element ##b## could be misinterpreted as meaning ##a## is paired with exactly one element, without implying that ##b## is not paired with any other element.
  • Another participant proposes a logical expression ##\exists!## x: x paired with b to clarify the uniqueness of the pairing.
  • A question is raised about whether the terms imply that ##a## and ##b## are from different sets and how this affects the interpretation of their pairing.
  • Several participants inquire about the possibility of distinguishing pairs like ##(a,b)## and ##(b,a)## and whether multiple pairings can exist for the same element.
  • One participant suggests that if the pairing is bijective, it simplifies the relationship to a one-to-one correspondence, questioning the need for further elaboration.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of permutations, indicating that a general bijective function does not necessarily require clear pairs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of "unique" in this context, with no consensus reached on the implications of the term regarding exclusivity in pairing.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions about the nature of the elements and their sets, including the potential for multiple pairings and the distinction between functions and relations, which remain unresolved.

Mr Davis 97
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I am trying to say that an element ##a## is paired with an element ##b## such that ##b## is paired with no other element.

I would like to write this more succinctly by just saying that ##a## is paired with a unique element ##b##. However, it seems that this could also be interpreted as meaning that ##a## is paired with exactly one element ##b##, while not necessarily implying that ##b## is not paired with any other element.

I need to get another opinion on what to do.
 
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b is paired with a unique element a?

##\exists!## x: x paired with b
 
So does ##a## is paired with a unique ##b## mean that ##a## is associated with only one element, while ##b## is paired with a unique ##a## means that ##a## is paired with an element ##b## such that ##b## is paired with no other element?
 
Are ##a## and ##b## from different sets?
Can we distinguish ##(a,b)## and ##(b,a)##?
Is ##(a,b) \wedge (a,c)## with ##b \neq c## possible?
Are all ##(a,.)## paired with some element?
Are all ##(.,b)## paired with some element?

I ask in order to find out, whether there can be established a function, or if it is just any relation.
 
fresh_42 said:
Are ##a## and ##b## from different sets?
Can we distinguish ##(a,b)## and ##(b,a)##?
Is ##(a,b) \wedge (a,c)## with ##b \neq c## possible?
Are all ##(a,.)## paired with some element?
Are all ##(.,b)## paired with some element?

I ask in order to find out, whether there can be established a function, or if it is just any relation.
I guess you could say that it is a bijective function from a finite set to itself
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
I guess you could say that it is a bijective function from a finite set to itself
In this case you just gave yourself the answer. Why bothering any pairing if it is already 1:1? Just write ##(a,f(a))##.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
I guess you could say that it is a bijective function from a finite set to itself
A general one? This is usually called a permutation, and does not have to have clear pairs, because f(f(a)) does not have to be a.
 

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