Question concerning displacement and vectors

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The problem involves calculating the displacement of a car that travels 215 km west and then 85 km southwest. Participants are exploring the necessary equations and methods to determine the magnitude and direction of the displacement.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the southwest vector into its southern and western components. There is mention of using trigonometric functions and creating right triangles to find the displacement. Some express uncertainty about the correct approach and seek clarification on vector addition.

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Several participants have offered guidance on breaking down the vectors into components and using trigonometry. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to visualize and calculate the displacement, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector addition and trigonometry, with some expressing confusion about the problem setup and the necessary calculations. There is a focus on understanding vector components and their significance in solving the problem.

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[1] A car is driven 215 km west and then 85 km southwest. What is the displacement of the car from the point of origin (magnitude and direction)? Draw a diagram.
[2] I have no idea what equations are necessary for this problem. I reread the chapter, but this problem in particular is stumping me.

[3] Originally, I thought I could make a triangle by using the vector of the 215 km west, the 85 km southwest, and the distance between the origin and the head of the 85 km southwest vector as sides. I thought if I could split the big triangle into two right triangles, I could use trigonometric functions to find the displacement, to no avail...
 
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Welcome to physics forums. I would suggest focusing on the "85 km southwest" part first.

Can you break it up into it's southern and western components?
 
It's a problem in trigonometry, if you drew the correct figure. Remember to use the directions of the individual vectors to find at least one angle in the triangle. You already have the lengths of two of the sides:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution_of_triangles
 
This is great advice so far!

While you could do vector addition by creating a triangle using the 215km W, 85km SW, and a hypotenuse connecting the origin to the SW tip, this could be tricky without CAD or unneeded trig functions.

I also recommend breaking up the SW vector into its S and W components. This way, when doing vector addition, you'll have a nice right triangle.

Do you see how to break the SW vector up? Imagine that's all you have for a moment, having it start at the origin. You know it's purely SW, so you know what angle it makes from the x axis. Knowing this angle and the length if the vector, you can draw (and calculate the lengths of) sides to create a triangle with the vector as the hypotenuse. Keep in mind you want one side purely in an x direction, and one in a y!

This divides the vector into its components.
 
I just figured out how to reply, sorry about that! And @Nathanael I can make it 85 km south and 85 km west correct?
@SteamKing thanks for the link, I'm checking it out now!
and @amadinger I thiiiiink I understood that a bit, thanks! :D
 
UhhRandomUser said:
I just figured out how to reply, sorry about that! And @Nathanael I can make it 85 km south and 85 km west correct?
@SteamKing thanks for the link, I'm checking it out now!
and @amadinger I thiiiiink I understood that a bit, thanks! :D

If you have a huge square that has sides that are 85 km long, how far is it from one corner to the corner that is diagonally opposite?
 

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