Question Regarding Purchasing an Algebra Book

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the selection of an appropriate algebra textbook for self-study in abstract algebra. Participants share their experiences and preferences regarding various texts, including Herstein's and Pinter's books, while also mentioning other titles like Lang's, Hungerford's, and Artin's. The focus is on finding a book that provides a good balance of challenge and understanding.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with the lecturer's notes used in their course and seeks recommendations for better textbooks in abstract algebra.
  • Concerns about Herstein's book include its perceived lack of insights and the nature of its problems, which some participants find odd.
  • Concerns about Pinter's book focus on its problem difficulty, with a participant questioning whether it matches the level of Herstein's.
  • Another participant suggests that if studying independently, a less challenging book may allow for quicker comprehension and progress.
  • There is a query about Serge Lang's text, with a request for clarification on which specific book is being referenced.
  • A participant shares their experience with Hungerford's and Artin's books, indicating a preference for Hungerford's due to their understanding of the material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the suitability of Herstein's and Pinter's books, with no consensus on which is better for self-study. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best choice for a textbook.

Contextual Notes

Participants' preferences are influenced by their individual experiences with the texts and the specific content they have studied. There is an acknowledgment of varying levels of challenge among the books discussed.

Who May Find This Useful

Mathematics undergraduates or self-learners interested in abstract algebra may find this discussion helpful in selecting a suitable textbook.

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Hi,

I am a math undergraduate major and just finished my first abstract algebra course. Unfortunately, we used the lecturer's notes which are quite dry, without motivation, and it really felt bad. I am really interested in abstract algebra, and thus has decided to re-learn it over the summer. After a long research over the internet, I have seen that both Herstein's topics and Pinter's book are well regarded and highly recommended.

But now I have some difficulties to decide which one I should purchase.

My concerns about Herstein's: I have read that it (a) does not give insights on the subjects(which sounds weird - how can it become a classic if it is not that good?) and (b) as he writes in the preface that some of the problem are not meant to be solved but rather just to tackle, which sounds a bit odd.

My concerns about Pinter's: in the MAA review, they say that the problems are not challenging, and I am not sure if it is at the same level as Herstein's.

My purpose is to continue with abstract algebra. So this course will not be my last one, and therefore I want to really understand what is going on.

I checked them both at the library, and both are wonderful books(and also D&F). I also checked Artin's, Jacobson's, Van Der Waerden but didn't like them very much.

I will be grateful for any advice and/or recommendations.

Thank you.
 
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If you are studying on your own, I wouldn't be too concerned about a book not being tough enough (at the same level as Herstein's). If it's easy, you can read through it fast and all is well. If it's too tough, you may either get stalled or get confused without help. If you checked them from the library, compare them both on the same subject, preferably one that you already understand, and see if you like how they describe it.
 
Any thoughts about Serge Lang's text ?
 
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If you are studying on your own, I wouldn't be too concerned about a book not being tough enough (at the same level as Herstein's). If it's easy, you can read through it fast and all is well. If it's too tough, you may either get stalled or get confused without help. If you checked them from the library, compare them both on the same subject, preferably one that you already understand, and see if you like how they describe it.

Thank you for the answer. As I wrote, I already look at them both and loved them both, unfortunately...

Buffu said:
Any thoughts about Serge Lang's text ?
Thank you for the answer. Do you mean "Undergraduate Algebra" or just "Algebra"?
 
I don't have much experience with many algebra books, but excuse me for chiming in anyway. The algebra books I used as an undergraduate are Hungerford's Abstract Algebra: An Introduction and Artin's Algebra. I recall understanding and liking Hungerford's book more. Though this feeling is probably colored by the fact that the portions I studied in Artin were the more advanced stuff not in Hungerford's, like group representation theory.
 

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