Question regarding to acceleration in the rate of expansion of our cosmos

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of dark energy and its role in the accelerating expansion of the universe. Participants explore the origins of dark energy, its effects on cosmic expansion, and the implications of these phenomena within the framework of cosmology.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the source of dark energy, suggesting it has existed since the early universe and is responsible for the ongoing acceleration of cosmic expansion.
  • Another participant draws an analogy to a balloon, asking how the expansion of the universe can increase over time in the presence of dark energy.
  • A later reply references a sticky thread in the Cosmology forum, suggesting that further reading may lead to more specific questions.
  • Another participant proposes that dark energy is the energy of the vacuum and discusses the concept of inflationary cosmology, indicating that the universe has been expanding as far back as we can observe.
  • There is a clarification that the observable universe may have been smaller than a proton in the early stages, while the local universe could be significantly larger, possibly infinite.
  • Concerns are raised about the notion of the universe increasing in energy, with a participant stating that there is no universally agreed measure of global energy in the universe.
  • One participant suggests that the real mystery lies in the nature of spacetime itself and its ability to expand, rather than the source of energy.
  • The relationship between vacuum energy and expansion rates is discussed, with a comparison made to the behavior of gases and liquids under pressure changes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the nature and implications of dark energy, with no consensus reached on its source or the mechanics of cosmic expansion. Multiple competing views remain regarding the understanding of dark energy and its effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding the global energy of the universe and the complexities of spacetime expansion, indicating that these concepts remain unresolved and open to interpretation.

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Dark Energy is one of the primitive forces of cosmos, existing since early years after Big Bang and its noted that its still is accelerating the rate of expansion of our universe. My question is that what is the source of this mysteries force?People stay that it existed ever in the universe.So how did the cosmos crunch into a volume of nutshell before the Big Bang? And how is constantly increasing its energy and increasing the rate of expansion much further?
 
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As we have not in balloons, that when we blow in air their rubber membrane starts to expand . But if we blow in air with greater energy, the rate of expansion increase with time. But all this is due to the presence of the solid membrane that makes the covering of the balloon. My question is that how can the expansion of cosmos increase in the presence of dark energy and acceleration continuous with time?
 
The balloon analogy thread seems a good place to start. But I could attempt sketches to some of this as best I understand it:

aditya ver.2.0 said:
My question is that what is the source of this mysteries force? People stay that it existed ever in the universe.

Dark energy is believed to be the energy of the vacuum. And our inflationary cosmology has a vacuum as far back as we know about.

aditya ver.2.0 said:
So how did the cosmos crunch into a volume of nutshell before the Big Bang?

It didn't have to, it has also been expanding as far back as we know about.

Are you confusing the observable universe with the (local) universe? The former had to have a volume smaller than a proton when we go as far back as we know about. The latter is at least 1000 times larger but we don't know how large it is. It could, arguably, be infinite.

aditya ver.2.0 said:
And how is constantly increasing its energy and increasing the rate of expansion much further?

Why would the universe increase in energy? The universe has no measure of global energy that enough people can agree on. (And when they agree on something such, it turns out it doesn't change due to that general relativity balances the terms AFAIU.)

If you think the mystery is where various energy "comes from", you have it easy. It doesn't seem to be the problem, if the universe expands it will continue to do so. The real mystery is where spacetime "comes from" as it expands. Who ordered that, that it can expand!? o0) Yet it has to be able to do so, else we can't have the same physics everywhere, this is what general relativity guarantees us. :cool:

The increase in expansion is simply (well...) what happens when vacuum energy dominates according to general relativity. When matter and/or radiation dominates the expansion rate changes differently. It is internal phase changes that decides the behavior, akin to how a gas or a liquid behaves differently as you push a piston in a cylinder. In fact, an isolated ICE cylinder is the best analogy I can think of - you have dumped in fuel and oxidizer and can burn/not burn so different expansion behavior - with no energy exchange with the "outside".
 
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