Questioning a Physics Problem: Taking Different Reference Frames

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving potential energy calculations for a spring and gravitational system, particularly focusing on the effects of choosing different reference frames for potential energy. Participants are exploring the implications of these choices on the results obtained.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss different attempts to define the zero level of potential energy for both gravitational and elastic potential energy. Questions arise about the validity of these choices and their impact on the results. Some participants express confusion about the implications of using different reference points.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking clarification. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of dimensional analysis as a tool for verifying the correctness of solutions. There is a recognition of the need for clearer diagrams and explanations to facilitate understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the challenges of organizing their thoughts and presenting their solutions clearly, indicating a desire to improve their problem-solving process. There is also a reference to previous experiences with errors in calculations, highlighting the learning aspect of the discussion.

  • #31
erobz said:
I think per Homework Forum Rules you have to try it before we help. I think the reason for this is that outlining an approach for you, is depriving you of developing that important part of the problems solution.
What would you consider the important part of the problems solution? Figuring it out on your own I or?
But no not at all, I will show you the solution, I've got it here :) I totally understand it and stuff.
But What I want to do is to improve the way of how I structure the problems. Because I tended to rush things through and also sometimes mid-problem got stuck simply because of not being able to recognize my past writing from what is for what aka (problems statics and strength of materials combined for example)

You see because I've never had science (or ... barely any) only biology actually 2h/week I am not very accustomed to following a structure that's clear and easily retracable for mistakes f.e.. If I showed to problems from the past you would NOT comprehend a single part if I am being honest.
Of course the books outlines an 'approach' but it's different you know.
And thus.. that is what I want to improve upon
 
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  • #32
I don't know, while it's tied to conservation of energy it is a completely different problem. It probably deserves its own thread. I'd suggest starting a new one.

(1) Practicing making/presenting good diagrams and supporting math in LaTeX is good practice, and practice makes perfect. If you need practice in exercising patience and effectively communicating scientific ideas, then that is the way to do it.

(2) It's not until you try to organize the problem and explain it to others (maybe many times over) that more efficient approaches become clear.

(1) and (2) are both important parts of the problem-solving process.

If you want to improve you must practice.
 
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  • #33
erobz said:
I don't know, while it's tied to conservation of energy it is a completely different problem. It probably deserves its own thread. I'd suggest starting a new one.

(1) Practicing making/presenting good diagrams and supporting math in LaTeX is good practice, and practice makes perfect. If you need practice in exercising patience and effectively communicating scientific ideas, then that is the way to do it.

(2) It's not until you try to organize the problem and explain it to others (maybe many times over) that more efficient approaches become clear.

(1) and (2) are both important parts of the problem-solving process.

If you want to improve you must practice.
Thanks a lot for the advice! Will definitely do that from now, and for now I can only say those diagrams oh man.. to describe energy situations it really helps you visualize it instead of just thinking about it in your head.

anyways thank you
 
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simphys said:
Thanks a lot for the advice! Will definitely do that from now, and for now I can only say those diagrams oh man.. to describe energy situations it really helps you visualize it instead of just thinking about it in your head.

anyways thank you
"Through hardship comes enlightenment"
 
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  • #35
erobz said:
"Through hardship comes enlightenment"
oh 100% we love that :P
 
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