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A simple pendulum consists of a mass attached to a massless string, and a baseball bat does not qualify as it has a non-massless string. For an oscillating mass to be considered a simple pendulum, the string must be massless, and the amplitude of the swing should be small. The period of a variable-g pendulum is described by the equation T^2 = K(1/geff), where K depends on the length, mass, acceleration due to gravity, and moment of inertia of the pendulum. Understanding these conditions is crucial for identifying simple pendulums and analyzing their motion accurately. The discussion clarifies the definitions and conditions necessary for classifying pendulums in physics.
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1) A simple pendulum consist of a mass m tied to a string (considered massless) of length L. So would a baseball bat suspended from one end, swinging back and forth, make a simple pendulum?

No, right? because the "string" in this case is not massless. Does the string that is swinging the mass always have to be massless for it to be a simple pendulum?

2) Under what conditions does an oscillating mass tied to a string constitute a simple pendulum?

Is it considered a simple pendulum when the mass is displaced from the suspension point?

3) The period of the variable-g pendulum is T^2 = K(1/geff).
Upon what variables does K depend? (Hint: The moment of inertia is involved.)

don't know about this question :frown:
 
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These questions strike me as a bit odd.
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1) A simple pendulum consist of a mass m tied to a string (considered massless) of length L. So would a baseball bat suspended from one end, swinging back and forth, make a simple pendulum?

No, right? because the "string" in this case is not massless. Does the string that is swinging the mass always have to be massless for it to be a simple pendulum?
By usual definition, a simple pendulum is a point mass at the end of a massless "string". So, right, a baseball bat is not a "simple pendulum", but would be an example of a physical pendulum. But I'm not getting the point of the question.

2) Under what conditions does an oscillating mass tied to a string constitute a simple pendulum?

Is it considered a simple pendulum when the mass is displaced from the suspension point?
Again, I have a hard time understanding the question. What's an "oscillating mass"? Do they mean a mass swinging at the end of a string? If the string is massless, it's a simple pendulum.

I'm guessing that they are looking for is under what conditions does this pendulum exhibit simple harmonic motion. Try answering that one.

3) The period of the variable-g pendulum is T^2 = K(1/geff).
Upon what variables does K depend? (Hint: The moment of inertia is involved.)
I don't know what a "variable-g" pendulum is. In any case, figure out (or look up) the equation for the period of a physical pendulum.
 


1) No, a baseball bat suspended from one end would not make a simple pendulum because the string is not considered massless. The definition of a simple pendulum includes a mass tied to a massless string, so the baseball bat would not meet this requirement.

2) An oscillating mass tied to a massless string constitutes a simple pendulum when the amplitude of the swing is small, the mass is concentrated at a single point, and the string is considered massless.

3) The variable-g pendulum equation, T^2 = K(1/geff), depends on several variables such as the length of the pendulum, the mass of the object, and the acceleration due to gravity. The value of K in the equation also depends on the moment of inertia of the pendulum, which is a measure of the object's resistance to rotational motion. Therefore, the variables that K depends on are the length, mass, acceleration due to gravity, and moment of inertia of the pendulum.
 
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