Time period of a pendulum made of two disks

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The problem involves determining the period of a pendulum consisting of two disks, each with mass M and radius R, connected by a massless rod. The setup includes one disk pivoted at its center, and the disks are positioned in the same plane with their centers a distance l apart. The task is to find the period for small oscillations of this system.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the moment of inertia of the pendulum using the parallel axis theorem and questions whether their approach is correct. Some participants affirm the need to find the moment of inertia about the pivot and suggest summing the moments of inertia of the individual parts. Others provide feedback on the calculations presented.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's approach and calculations. While there is no explicit consensus, some participants express agreement with the methodology and offer encouragement regarding the calculations.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as stated, focusing on the physical properties of the disks and the setup of the pendulum. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct application of the moment of inertia and the relevant equations for oscillation.

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Homework Statement



Problem statement -
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Klepner and Kolenkow 6.15 : A pendulum is made of two disks each of mass M and radius R separated by a massless rod. One of the disks is pivoted through its center by a small pin. The disks hang in the same plane and their centres are a distance l apart. Find the period for small oscillations.

Variables -

Two disks of mass M and radius R; massless rod; distance between centres of disks is l

Homework Equations



For disk, radius of gyration, k = ## \sqrt{\cfrac{1}{2}}R ##
For a physical pendulum,

## \omega = \sqrt{\cfrac{mgl}{I}} ##, where m = mass of the physical pendulum and I = moment of inertia of the pendulum about the pivot.

The Attempt at a Solution


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Centre of mass of the system of the disks should be at the midpoint of the rod. So, I replaced the system with a physical pendulum.

First, we have to calculate moment of inertia of the pendulum about the pivot. Using parallel axis theorem,

## I = I_{0} + ml^2 ##
## \implies I = \cfrac{1}{2}(2M)R^2 + (2M) (\cfrac{l}{2})^2 ##

Also, we will have to replace 'm' by '2M' in the formula for ## \omega##.

This whole solution of mine looks too confusing to me. Can anyone please tell me whether I am on the right path or not? Also, how should I proceed with the question?

I have attached the figure for the question (as per my understanding).

Thanks
 

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You have the right basic approach - you need the moment of inertia about the pivot - which is actually through the center of mass of one of the disks. The overall moment of inertia is the sum of the moments of inertia of the parts. So work out each part separately and add them up.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
You have the right basic approach - you need the moment of inertia about the pivot - which is actually through the center of mass of one of the disks. The overall moment of inertia is the sum of the moments of inertia of the parts. So work out each part separately and add them up.
Thanks for the reply.

Net moment of inertia, ##I_{net} = I_{1} + I_{2} = \cfrac{1}{2} MR^2 + (\cfrac{1}{2}MR^2 + Ml^2)##
##\implies I_{net} = MR^2 + Ml^2##

Plugging in the values in the formula:

##\omega = \sqrt{\cfrac{mgl}{I}} = \sqrt{\cfrac{(2M)g(\cfrac{l}{2})}{MR^2 + Ml^2}}##
## \implies \omega = \sqrt{\cfrac{gl}{R^2 + l^2}} ##

Thus, time period of oscillations should be:

## T = \cfrac{2\pi}{\omega} = 2\pi \sqrt{\cfrac{R^2 + l^2}{gl}}##

Is this correct?

Thanks
 
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It's pretty much what I would have done - didn't check your algebra.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
It's pretty much what I would have done - didn't check your algebra.
Superb! Thanks a lot for your help.
 

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