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The discussion revolves around the definitions of the differential in the context of differential geometry, specifically comparing two definitions: one that treats the differential as a linear functional on the tangent space and another that involves a map between two manifolds. Participants seek to understand the equivalence of these definitions, the roles of various functions and maps, and the implications of these definitions in different contexts.

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  • Some participants question the equivalence of the two definitions of the differential, seeking clarification on how they relate to each other.
  • There is confusion regarding the roles of the functions ##F## and ##f## in the second definition, with participants asking how they operate within the context of the tangent spaces involved.
  • One participant suggests that definition (a) aligns more closely with the concept of a differential as a covector, prompting inquiries about how definition (b) fits into this understanding.
  • Another participant points out that the notation for the pushforward associated with the map ##F## is often denoted differently, leading to discussions about notation preferences and their implications for understanding the concepts.
  • Several participants express uncertainty about specific steps in the derivations and calculations, particularly regarding the identity map and its role in the definitions.
  • One participant proposes an equivalence proof between the two definitions using the identity map, indicating an attempt to reconcile the differing perspectives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the equivalence of the two definitions, and multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation and implications of the definitions. There is ongoing debate about the necessity and role of certain components in the definitions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion over the definitions and their implications, particularly regarding the assumptions underlying the use of the identity map and the nature of the tangent spaces involved. There are unresolved questions about the notation and its consistency across different texts.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners of differential geometry, particularly those interested in the foundational concepts of differentials and their applications in manifold theory.

  • #31
be aware Lavinia is talking about something slightly different from a map M-->Tp(M). She is talking about maps M-->T(M), without the fixed subscript p.

I.e. a vector field on M is a map v:M-->T(M) such that for each p in M, v(p) belongs to Tp(M). So the p is varying in a vector field.
 
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  • #32
Thanks, everyone. That clears up a lot of issues.

I actually did come across the exponential map in one set of notes I found on the internet, but I put it aside until I get the basics down.

lavinia, I neglected to thank you for your post earlier. Thanks.
 
  • #33
Fredrik said:
I don't think we have discussed maps like that. If M is equipped with a metric, then the "exponential map" at p takes an arbitrary ##v\in T_pM## to ##\gamma(1)\in M##, where ##\gamma## is the unique geodesic through p whose tangent vector at p is v. I doubt that the exponential map is always invertible, but I would guess that if it isn't, it probably has a restriction that's invertible.

The exponential map is always locally invertible. Its differential is non-singular at the origin of the tangent space being exponentiated.

The example of the sphere that Mathwonk described shows that the exponential map can have singularities and in general it does. The study of its singularities - so called conjugate points - is the subject of Morse Theory.

In some cases, the exponential map can have no singularities but still not be invertible. This is true for instance of compact flat Riemannian manifolds since on them, the Riemann curvature tensor is identically zero so there are no conjugate points.For instance, for the flat torus, the exponential map is a covering projection.
 
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