Questions on Completion of Metric Spaces and Isometries

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The discussion revolves around the completion of metric spaces, specifically focusing on discrete metric spaces and the properties of isometric spaces. Participants are exploring the nature of Cauchy sequences within these contexts and the implications for completeness.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how to complete a discrete metric space and questioning the characteristics of Cauchy sequences in such spaces. There is discussion about the implications of isometry on completeness between two spaces.

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Some participants have offered insights into the nature of Cauchy sequences in discrete metric spaces, suggesting that these sequences must eventually consist of repeated elements. There is ongoing exploration of whether discrete spaces are inherently complete and what that means for the concept of completion.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and properties of Cauchy sequences and completeness, particularly in the context of discrete metrics. There is a noted confusion regarding the necessity of completion for discrete spaces, given their apparent completeness.

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I actually have two questions I am having trouble with.

Homework Statement


What is the completion of a discrete metric space X?


Homework Equations


d(x,x) = 0
d(x,y) = 1 if x does not = y

I don't really understand how to complete a metric space that is incomplete. I just know that every Cauchy sequence in X would have to converge to something in X itself, but I'm not sure how to manipulate it to ensure that this happens.


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Homework Statement


If X1 and X2 are isometric and X1 is complete, show that X2 is complete.

I know that since they are isometric, there is a mapping T such that d2(Tx,Ty) = d1(x,y). Other than that, I'm not sure how to prove it. It just kind of seems intuitive.


Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Thank you SO much.
 
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What does a cauchy sequence look like in a discrete metric space? Look at the definition of cauchy and think about it.
 
Hmm...I'm not sure if this is right, but wouldn't you pick a sequence (xm) in the Discrete space that is Cauchy, then for every epsilon > 0 there exists N(epsilon) such that if m,n>N then d(xm, xn)< epsilon...but then, doesn't d(xm, xn)=1? But, how can we say that 1 < epsilon? I'm not sure, I really don't know what to do with this.
 
Pick epsilon=1/2. If d(xm,xn)<1/2, what does that tell you about xm and xn if the metric is discrete? The elements in a sequence don't HAVE to be different. But being in a discrete metric might force them to be the same. Hmm?
 
Ahh, so in order to complete this space, x and y must always be equal. That way, d(xm,xn) = 0 < epsilon. Am I getting that right?
 
You are getting closer. In order for a sequence to be cauchy, there must be an N such that xn=xm for all n,m>N. Agree? Does the sequence have a limit? What is it?
 
Okay, now I'm confused. Since x_m is NOT cauchy unless x_m = x_n, doesn't that say that every Cauchy sequence in the discrete space converges? So, isn't the discrete space already complete, and therefore, why would it need a completion?
 
azdang said:
Okay, now I'm confused. Since x_m is NOT cauchy unless x_m = x_n, doesn't that say that every Cauchy sequence in the discrete space converges? So, isn't the discrete space already complete, and therefore, why would it need a completion?

You don't sound confused to me. Yes, all cauchy sequences eventually repeat the same term over and over. Therefore all cauchy sequences converge to something in the space. Yes, discrete spaces are already complete. The completion is itself.
 

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