Quick conceptual question about disconnecting battery

  • Thread starter Thread starter xchococatx
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Battery Conceptual
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of a parallel plate capacitor when it is disconnected from a battery. Participants are exploring the relationship between charge, voltage, and the effects of inserting a dielectric after disconnection.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning whether the charge on the capacitor remains constant after disconnection from the battery, and how this relates to the calculation of work when inserting a dielectric. There is an exploration of the implications of charge conservation and voltage presence.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their reasoning and questioning the assumptions about charge retention and voltage presence in the capacitor after disconnection. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between charge, capacitance, and voltage.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of inserting a dielectric into the capacitor and how it affects the voltage and charge, while also noting the absence of an external voltage source after disconnection.

xchococatx
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
If there is a parallel plate capacitor, connected to a battery, which is then disconnected, there is NO voltage now, but "Q" (charge) on the capacitor remains the same. YES OR NO? I think yes.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
xchococatx said:
If there is a parallel plate capacitor, connected to a battery, which is then disconnected, there is NO voltage now, but "Q" (charge) on the capacitor remains the same. YES OR NO? I think yes.

What is your reasoning?
 
Well basically I'm thinking that a capacitor stores charges (or energy) so, onces its all charged up by a battery, I don't see how it could lose those charges...even when the battery is disconnected. (immediately anyways, it wouldn't be all gone I don't think) Why I was thinking about this was because if the battery is now disconnected, and you wanted to calculate the work needed to insert a dielectric, fitting perfectly between the 2 plates, since there is no voltage, I don't see how you could calculate the work unless you used the original charge of the capacitor (without dielectric). (By means of E=Q^2/2C) So in order to use the original charge of the capacitor, I figured charge has to stay in the capacitor even if the battery is disconnected.
 
xchococatx said:
Well basically I'm thinking that a capacitor stores charges (or energy) so, onces its all charged up by a battery, I don't see how it could lose those charges...even when the battery is disconnected. (immediately anyways, it wouldn't be all gone I don't think) Why I was thinking about this was because if the battery is now disconnected, and you wanted to calculate the work needed to insert a dielectric, fitting perfectly between the 2 plates, since there is no voltage, I don't see how you could calculate the work unless you used the original charge of the capacitor (without dielectric). (By means of E=Q^2/2C) So in order to use the original charge of the capacitor, I figured charge has to stay in the capacitor even if the battery is disconnected.

Okay, your reasoning is pretty good. Note that the charged capacitor will maintain a voltage (potential difference) according to Q = C*V, even without an external voltage source applied. Of course, if the capacitance changes (due, say, to the insertion of a dielectric) the voltage will change accordingly if the charges have nowhere to go.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
26
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K