Quick Question about the Christoffel Symbol of the Second Kind

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The discussion revolves around the Christoffel symbol of the second kind, specifically focusing on the summation indices involved in its definition and how they relate to the dimensions of a manifold. The scope includes theoretical aspects of differential geometry and general relativity.

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  • One participant presents the formula for the Christoffel symbol and questions the range of the dummy index k, suggesting it might be summed from 0 to 3.
  • Another participant confirms that the summation indices typically range over the full range of indices in the manifold, particularly in the context of a 4-D spacetime.
  • A different participant questions why the summation range is considered counterintuitive, suggesting it follows from Einstein summation notation.
  • The initial poster expresses that while they understand the notation, they find the concept somewhat counterintuitive, particularly regarding the nature of the dummy index and its relation to the coordinates of spacetime.

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Participants generally agree on the application of Einstein summation notation, but there is a disagreement regarding the intuitive understanding of the dummy index and its implications in the context of the Christoffel symbol.

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The discussion highlights the potential confusion surrounding dummy indices in tensor equations and their relationship to the dimensions of the manifold, without resolving the underlying conceptual challenges.

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The Christoffel symbol is as followed:

[tex]{\Gamma ^{m}}_{ab}=\frac{1}{2}g^{mk}(g_{ak,b}+g_{bk,a}-g_{ab,k})[/tex]

where [itex]k[/itex] is a dummy index. What values is it summed over? If I had to guess I'd say 0 to 3, but it seems somewhat counter intuitive.

Does the Christoffel symbol become

[tex]{\Gamma ^{m}}_{ab}=\frac{1}{2}([g^{m0}(g_{a0,b}+g_{b0,a}-g_{ab,0})]+[g^{m1}(g_{a1,b}+g_{b1,a}-g_{ab,1})]+[g^{m2}(g_{a2,b}+g_{b2,a}-g_{ab,2})]+[g^{m3}(g_{a3,b}+g_{b3,a}-g_{ab,3})])[/tex]

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You've got it right, at least for the "standard" case in relativity of a 4-D spacetime. The general rule is that summed indexes range over the full range of indexes in whatever manifold you are working with.
 
Why is this counter intuitive? It simply follows from the einstein summnation notation.
 
I understand the Einstein summation notation. I found it somewhat counter intuitive seeing as how it was a dummy index that didn't seem to "be" the 4 coordinates of space-time in any equation or tensor, etc. but it makes more sense the way PeterDonis said it... it's on a 4-dimensional manifold...
 

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