Quote on icing/superhydrophobic surfaces

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The discussion revolves around the use of quotes related to superhydrophobic surfaces and their application in preventing ice accumulation, particularly in the context of a Master's thesis. Participants explore the relevance of a Shakespearean quote and discuss the implications of ice accumulation on safety in aviation and wind turbine performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a quote for their thesis on superhydrophobic surfaces aimed at preventing ice accumulation.
  • Another participant suggests a quote from Shakespeare's King John, interpreting it as a metaphor for the behavior of water droplets on superhydrophobic surfaces.
  • There is uncertainty about the meaning of the quote, particularly from non-native English speakers.
  • Participants discuss the relevance of the quote in the context of ice accumulation and its impact on aircraft safety and wind turbine performance.
  • Alternative quotes are proposed, including a statement about the dangers of ice on aircraft and references to safety advisories.
  • One participant questions whether the Shakespeare quote effectively conveys the intended message about superhydrophobic surfaces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of the Shakespeare quote, with some questioning its applicability while others suggest it may serve as a metaphor. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best quote to use.

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Participants express uncertainty about the interpretation of the Shakespeare quote, and there are references to external sources that may provide relevant information on ice accumulation and its effects.

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This discussion may be useful for students or researchers interested in superhydrophobic surfaces, ice accumulation issues in aviation, and the use of literary quotes in scientific writing.

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Hi,

I'm writing a Master's thesis on superhydrophobic surfaces aimed at preventing ice accumulation, and I'm looking for an appropriate quote to include in my introduction. Any suggestions?
 
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W. Shakespeare said:
He that stands upon a slippery place, makes nice of no vile hold to stay him up.

From King John.
 
I'm not sure if I understand the quote :P English is not my native language, and Google translate wasn't really helpful in this case...
 
A person who stands on a slippery place, will not be too fussy about using a vile thing to hold themselves up. If you get a copy of King John by William Shakespeare, transtlated into your language, you will find this quote in act iii scene 4.
 
OK, thanks. Do you think it's a relevant quote?
 
thephysicsman said:
OK, thanks. Do you think it's a relevant quote?
I'm pretty sure that you're the only one who can answer that question.
 
Hierarchical superhydrophobic surfaces that repel water and and reduce the accretion and adhesion of ice.
 
Alternatively, one could state that "Ice accumulation is a serious safety hazard for aircraft. The presence of ice on airplane surfaces prevents the even flow of air, which increases drag and reduces lift. Ice on wings is especially dangerous during takeoff, when a sheet of ice the thickness of a compact disc can reduce lift by 25 percent or more.", which is found in an article in Spinoff 2007, Tranportation.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20080003912_2008001485.pdf

or find something in the FAA Safety Advisory on Aircraft Icing - www.aopa.org/asf/publications/sa11.pdf

Blade icing would also reduce the performance of wind turbines.
 
So, the relevance of Shakespeare's quote here is that a body (water droplet) on a slippery (superhydrophobic) surface will "give up" trying to adhere to it?
 
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thephysicsman said:
So, the relevance of Shakespeare's quote here is that a body (water droplet) on a slippery (superhydrophobic) surface will "give up" trying to adhere to it?
If I were you, I would resist the temptation to use this quote without first looking it up in a copy of Shakespeare's King John translated into your own language.
 

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