Radiation or electrical interference? Geiger counter

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This discussion centers on the interference issues encountered when using a Geiger counter in conjunction with a Tesla coil during experiments involving electrical discharges at low pressure. The Geiger counter is triggered by RF noise generated by the Tesla coil, complicating the detection of X-rays. It is established that low-energy X-rays, such as those at 1 keV, have a limited range in air, typically only a few millimeters, while higher energy X-rays (10 keV) can travel over a meter. Grounded metal shielding can reduce RF noise but may also increase electromagnetic interference, making it less effective for accurate X-ray detection.

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First, I hope this is the correct place for this question.

I am experimenting with electrical discharges at low pressure, think plasma globe, and I bought a geiger counter to make sure I am not producing x-rays. My vacuum pump is rated down to 5 pascals. The problem is that the geiger counter is set off by the RF noise from the tesle coil. Using grounded metal shielding reduces this noise is greatly, but how can I tell if the geiger counter is in fact picking up x-rays?

Currently the counter only picks up a reading when very close to the discharge. X-rays should still be strong at more than 10-20cm from the source, right? The geiger counter also only goes off when using the tesle coil, and reads nothing when I use a high voltage DC supply. What do you think?
 
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X-rays should still be strong at more than 10-20cm from the source, right?
Depends on the energy range, but low-energetic x-rays won't go through the glass. At 1 keV, the range in air is just a few millimeters. For 10 keV this increases to more than a meter.

Aluminium foil could absorb electromagnetic interference while not absorbing too much x-rays (compared to the glass).

Absorption values from here.
 
Thanks, sounds like if they were able to escape the glass, then I would be picking them up farther away. The metal shielding is actually counter-productive in some cases because it just makes a bigger target for induction by rhe emf.
 

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