Radio-Emitting LEDs: Can It Be Done?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of creating LEDs that emit radio waves, exploring the theoretical and practical aspects of such devices. Participants also inquire about the existence of radio phototransistors and discuss various semiconductor devices that can generate or amplify radio frequencies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the possibility of an LED emitting radio waves, noting the significant difference in wavelength compared to visible light.
  • Another participant mentions Gunn diodes as a means to emit microwaves when placed in a resonating cavity with applied DC voltage.
  • There is a suggestion that diodes can be used to multiply radio waves, with a focus on the functionality of transistors in responding to radio frequencies.
  • A participant discusses the magnetron as a powerful radio-emitting diode, highlighting its practical application in microwave technology.
  • Another participant describes the Tunnel or Esaki diode, explaining its negative resistance property and its potential to oscillate when connected to a tuned circuit.
  • Further mention is made of other powerful transmitter diodes, such as IMPATT and TRAPITT diodes, as capable of generating radio waves.

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Participants express a range of views on the topic, with some agreeing on the existence of devices that can emit or amplify radio waves, while others remain skeptical about the feasibility of using LEDs for this purpose. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the main question posed.

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Participants highlight various technical challenges and limitations related to the size and functionality of devices intended to emit radio waves, as well as the specific characteristics of different semiconductor technologies.

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As the title may suggest, I am in search of a LED that emits radio waves. Yes, radio. I have seen and heard of the wide spectrum of waves LEDs can produce, ranging from ultraviolet to infrared LEDs, but never of anything beyond that, for say, radio waves. Of course, it may sound as stupid as asking for a lamp emitting gamma ray on the shorter side, but this is practically possible, for so I believe.

Also, I want to ask, do radio phototransistors exist?
 
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The wavelength of visible light is between 380 nm and 760 nm, while radio is as much as two or three orders higher, depending on the frequency. You would need an LED a few centimeters to several meters wide. There are also other impracticalities I'm sure others can point out.
 
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There are Gunn diodes - when placed in a resonating cavity, they will emit microwaves if you apply DC voltage.

otherwise diodes can be used to multiply radio waves,

Also, I want to ask, do radio phototransistors exist?

Any reasonable transistor responds to radio waves. It can amplify, generate, or multiply radio waves among many things.
 
"Also, I want to ask, do radio phototransistors exist?"
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Any reasonable transistor responds to radio waves. It can amplify, generate, or multiply radio waves among many things.

I think he was talking about using the radio signal as the gate for a transistor, like how visible/UV/infrared light is used in photodiodes and phototransistors, rather than simply amplifying a radio signal.
 
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The magnetron in a microwave IS a radio emitting diode, and a very powerful one at that
 
As weird as it seems, there are several two terminal devices that can produce radio waves or even be used to amplify them!. My favorite of these is the Tunnel or Esaki diode. I had great fun playing with one of these in college ;)
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Essentially, if you supply a current to it, the diode will reach a point where the voltage across it begins to decrease as the current increases. That is the definition of a negative resistance. That is,
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R = V/I, but in this case, R < 0, because the slope of V/I is down.
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Anyway, you can place a parallel tuned circuit across it and as long as it isn't loaded to heavily, it will oscillate.
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Now, what's even MORE interesting than that is that someone discovered that a similar diode can be fabricated from parts found in an era 1900 barn!
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http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/ntype-nr.htm
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It thrills me to no end to know that Hertz could, if he'd known this, have constructed a CW transmitter.
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Anyway, there's also the aforementioned Gunn diode which is commonly used in speed radar guns. Just put them in a can, apply voltage through a bit of inductance and off they go, singing like they had no better sense.

There's also some crazy powerful transmitter diodes, like the IMPATT and TRAPITT diodes.
 
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