Radius of circular impulse wave in the hemisphere bowl

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of circular impulse waves in a hemispherical bowl, specifically addressing the reflection of waves and their propagation distances. Participants are exploring the nature of wavefronts and the physical principles governing their movement within the bowl.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning why waves reflect at a specific distance and whether the term "reflect" accurately describes the phenomenon occurring at the center of the bowl. There are attempts to visualize the wavefront shape and its movement over time.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the wavefront's characteristics and behavior, with some participants providing observations from practical experiments. Multiple interpretations of wave propagation are being discussed, particularly regarding the shape and movement of the wavefront.

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Some participants express confusion over the visual representation of the wavefront and the terminology used to describe wave behavior, indicating a need for clarification on the physical setup and assumptions being made.

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hi all, why the wave is reflected back form the centre when it is at the distance of 200mm? why the wave can't go beyond 200mm to reach 250mm from the side of bowl?

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Can you describe the shape of the wavefront just after tapping the side of the bowl? I'm not sure, but you might have a misconception about this. If in doubt, try it in the kitchen :smile:

What does the wavefront in the problem look like at t = 0.8 s?
 
TSny said:
Can you describe the shape of the wavefront just after tapping the side of the bowl? I'm not sure, but you might have a misconception about this. If in doubt, try it in the kitchen :smile:

What does the wavefront in the problem look like at t = 0.8 s?

the wavefront move until the another end from one end and reflect back.
 
desmond iking said:
the wavefront move until the another end from one end and reflect back.

So you're saying it would be like a line moving across the bowl and then back?
 
Yes. Is it wrong?
 
desmond iking said:
hi all, why the wave is reflected back form the centre when it is at the distance of 200mm? why the wave can't go beyond 200mm to reach 250mm from the side of bowl?
It does seem wrong to use the word "reflect" to describe the wave progressing through the centre of the bowl. There is no discontinuity in the medium there for a wave to "reflect" off.

There is no phase inversion, yet they imply it can be viewed as 100% "reflection"?
 
desmond iking said:
the wavefront move until the another end from one end and reflect back.

Did you do the experiment?

Here is what I observed. Picture A shows the water sitting still in the bowl before tapping the bowl.

B, C, and D show times just after tapping the bowl on the left with the handle of a knife.
 

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TSny said:
Did you do the experiment?

Here is what I observed. Picture A shows the water sitting still in the bowl before tapping the bowl.

B, C, and D show times just after tapping the bowl on the left with the handle of a knife.

sorry i can't understand your photo here. can i still say that the water the wavefront move until the another end from one end and reflect back. which means the water wave can move until 400mm from one end and then only reflect back? which is also (assuming the water wave is produced at the left ) means the water wave is at 150 mm form the right...
 
desmond iking said:
Nathanael said:
So you're saying it would be like a line moving across the bowl and then back?
Yes. Is it wrong?

As you can see from TSny's pictures, that is not what happens. (It is not a line; what shape is it?)
 
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Circular waves spread out?
 
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desmond iking said:
Circular waves spread out?
Perhaps you could write a few sentences in response to those trying to help you? By confining yourself to a single staccato phrase, you have misled some into thinking you can't conceive of circular wave propagation. Well. I think you have managed it, anyway ...

Maybe I'm the one who's got it wrong. You have tried tapping on the side of a bowl of water?
 
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