Radius of coil in magnetic field

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two coils with the same number of turns and current, rotating in different magnetic fields. The first coil has a known radius and magnetic field strength, while the second coil's radius is unknown, but it is stated that both coils experience the same maximum torque.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss equating the torque equations for both coils and question the correctness of their calculations. Some express confusion about how to relate the magnetic field strength and radius to find the unknown radius of the second coil.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem. Some participants are attempting to clarify their reasoning and calculations, while others are questioning assumptions about the relationship between the coils' properties and the magnetic fields they are in.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of determining the radius of the second coil given the constraints of the problem, including the same maximum torque and differing magnetic field strengths. There is a mention of confusion regarding the use of current and area in the calculations.

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Homework Statement



Two coils have the same number of circular turns and carry the same current. Each rotates in a magnetic field in a setup similar to the square coil in the figure below. Coil 1 has a radius of 4.2 cm and rotates in a 0.19 T field. Coil 2 rotates in a 0.42 T field. Each coil experiences the same maximum torque. What is the radius (in cm) of coil 2?

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Homework Equations



Torque= NIABsin(phi)

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought that since each coil experienced the same maximum torque and received the same current that I could set their respective NIABsin(phi) equations equal to each other, cancel out current, and solve for the area of the second coil, but the answer that I got was incorrect (8.899 cm). So I know that there has to be another way to solve this question, but I'm at a loss as to how to approach it. Can anyone offer any guidance or insight on what I'm doing wrong?
 
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I am stuck on the same problem. I tryed B=muI/2pir. I used the one where we have all the infromation except for the I. I then used this I and put into a new equation to slove for r. I just thought it was smiple subistion. Because for you you don't have the I and for the other you need to find the r. NO clue after that.
 
\vec \tau = \vec \mu \times \vec B where \vec \mu = N i \vec A is the magnetic dipole moment. So you are given that \vec \tau are the same and i guess current too. so it is just a matter of finding area then radius... you should expect the area, ie. radius for loop 2 be smaller since field is stronger there...
 
i figured it out
 
Ok I'm also trying to figure this one out and having trouble. I'm assuming I somehow need to use the area of the given radius' coil and the magnitude its magnetic field to find the area of the ungiven radius' coil?

I'm just confused as to how.
 

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