Radius of convex spherical mirror?

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The radius of a convex spherical mirror required for a clerk to see a 6 ft person entering a convenience store at least 3 inches tall is calculated to be 24 inches. The calculations involve using the mirror formula and magnification principles, where the object distance (do) is 300 inches and the image height (hi) is -3 inches. The correct focal length for the mirror is -13 inches, confirming that the radius of curvature is indeed 26 inches. The discussion clarifies the distinction between virtual and real images in the context of convex mirrors.

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The problem:
"A convex spherical mirror is 25 ft from the door of a convenience store. The clerk needs to see a 6 ft. person entering the store at least 3 inches tall in the mirror to identify them. What is the radius of the mirror?"

d_obj = do = 25 ft = 300 inches
h_img = hi = 3 inches
h_obj = ho = 6 ft = 72 inches

The formulas I tried using:

focal point = f = radius/2 = r/2
1/do+1/di = 1/f = 1/r/2 = 2/r
For convex mirror: m = magnification = hi/ho = -di/do

Work:

hi/ho = -di/do
3/72 = -di/300
di=-12.5 inches

1/do + 1/di = 2/r
1/300 - 1/12.5 = 2/r
r=26 inches

I found the radius to be 26 inches, which seems a bit too large. Is it correct or am I doing something wrong? I feel as though I must somehow incorporate the magnification, but I'm not sure how. It would be -24X but looking at something normally you'll see it as smaller than it is if you're at a greater distance so I'm not sure how to compensate for that.
 
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The image is real and upside down, so the height of the image is negative. Therefore, di is positive.

ehild

Edit: I was wrong: The mirror is convex, so the image is upright (virtual). Di is positive!
 
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ehild said:
The image is real and upside down, so the height of the image is negative. Therefore, di is positive.

ehild

d_obj = do = 25 ft = 300 inches
h_img = hi = -3 inches
h_obj = ho = 6 ft = 72 inches

hi/ho = -di/do
-3/72 = -di/300
di=12.5 inches

1/do + 1/di = 2/r
1/300 + 1/12.5 = 2/r
r=24 inches

So the radius of the mirror is precisely 24 inches? That still seems like a rather large convenience store mirror.
 
It is the radius of the curvature. A spherical mirror is a part of a spherical surface, its diameter can be as small as you like.

ehild
 
Okay, thank you!
 
Sorry I was wrong, mixed convex and concave. The clerk does not want to see people upside down! He/she uses a convex mirror, that produces virtual, upright image. For such an image, di is positive, but the focal distance is negative. From the mirror equation, you get f=-13 inch. So the 26 inch for the radius was correct.

ehild
 
Okay, thanks. I was wondering about the inverted image, though the result seemed better.
 

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