Random Thoughts 7

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The discussion in the "Random Thoughts 7" thread begins with a user expressing a desire to have the first civilian post. Participants reminisce about a missing member, Evo, and share their hopes for her well-being. The conversation shifts to humorous musings about chatbots and the origins of the term "robot," followed by reflections on pop culture, including reactions to Matthew Perry's passing. There are also light-hearted anecdotes about close encounters with deer while driving and observations on the challenges of transitioning from undergraduate to graduate studies. Overall, the thread captures a mix of nostalgia, humor, and personal experiences.
  • #951
WWGD said:
Ok, not too hard to remember: a light year is 946 trillion milles , plus 80 million miles, i.e., 946.080.000.000
I think you're off by two orders of magnitude and a unit change. I make it ##365×24×3600×3×10^8\mathrm{m}## is 9.4608 trillion kilometres, or about 5.913 trillion miles.
 
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  • #952
Ibix said:
I think you're off by two orders of magnitude and a unit change. I make it ##365×24×3600×3×10^8\mathrm{m}## is 9.4608 trillion kilometres, or about 5.913 trillion miles.
Ah, I guess I thought the speed of light was given in miles/second. I'm remembering now it is 186,000 miles/sec, not 300,000 miles/sec.
So Ill settle for 946 trillion km + 80 million Km. Then I use that 1 mile~1,609 metres. Or metres jn UK ish.
 
  • #953
WWGD said:
Ah, I guess I thought the speed of light was given in miles/second. I'm remembering now it is 186,000 miles/sec, not 300,000 miles/sec.
So Ill settle for 946 trillion km + 80 million Km. Then I use that 1 mile~1,609 metres. Or metres jn UK ish.
As a " meta point" of sorts, these casual exchanges can be valuable. This one allowed me to correct my knowledge base.
 
  • #954
For those difficult moments, days (A short; some 15 seconds long)
 
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  • #955
WWGD said:
So Ill settle for 946 trillion km + 80 million Km.
That's 100ly, though.

There are approximately ##\pi\times 10^7\mathrm{s}## in a year and ##c=3\times 10^8\mathrm{ms^{-1}}##, so one light year has to be approximately ##10^{16}\mathrm{m}=10^{13}\mathrm{km}##, so about ten trillion, not a thousand trillion.
 
  • #956
This source cites it as ##9.46 \times 10^{12}##km. I saw it computed in a YT short and dIdnt double-check.
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  • #957
I get dizzy. How can you talk about trillions when you are from countries that define it differently?
 
  • #958
fresh_42 said:
I get dizzy. How can you talk about trillions when you are from countries that define it differently?
If we differed by three orders of magnitude, I'd agree. I think pretty much everybody uses the American standard now anyway. Despite it making less sense. :wink:
WWGD said:
This source cites it as ##9.46 \times 10^{12}##km. I saw it computed in a YT short and dIdnt double-check.
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Oh dear...

One hour is 3600 seconds
One day is 24 hours
One year is 365 days
That makes one year 31,536,000 s

The speed of light is 300,000,000 m/s
That makes one light year 9,460,800,000,000,000 m (##9.5\times 10^{15}\mathrm{m}##), or ##9.5\times 10^{12}\mathrm{km}##.
 
  • #959
Ibix said:
If we differed by three orders of magnitude, I'd agree.
You mean ##6## as in ##10^{12}## (US) versus ##10^{18}##?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lange_und_kurze_Skala#Vergleich_der_Skalen
Ibix said:
I think pretty much everybody uses the American standard now anyway.
Definitely not here, and I cannot see that anyone quit using -iards.

975px-World_map_of_long_and_short_scales.svg.png


Sorry, I thought the British would have used the European standard.
 
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  • #960
fresh_42 said:
You mean ##6## as in ##10^{12}## (US) versus ##10^{18}##?
Well, any power of ##10^3## difference rings "maybe it's a mega/giga/tera mix up" alarm bells for me, but yes you're correct here.
fresh_42 said:
Sorry, I thought the British would have used the European standard.
I think the battle in English was lost long ago. The only "normal" usage of such values is financial, and that seemed to settle on the US standard when I was a kid.
 
  • #961
Ibix said:
The only "normal" usage of such values is financial, and that seemed to settle on the US standard when I was a kid.
That makes it even more illogical. You simply have more space in the long version. 35 billion national debt sounds better than 35 trillion national debt.
 
  • #962
fresh_42 said:
That makes it even more illogical. You simply have more space in the long version. 35 billion national debt sounds better than 35 trillion national debt.
Both better than a gazillion .
 
  • #963
fresh_42 said:
I get dizzy. How can you talk about trillions when you are from countries that define it differently?
When the math/science guys get argumentative I always think they may end up at Graham's number.
Or Tree 3.
The horror.
 
  • #964
pinball1970 said:
When the math/science guys get argumentative I always think they may end up at Graham's number.
Or Tree 3.
The horror.
Jamaicans are Tree 3 at 333. Tree , Tree Tree.
 
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  • #965
pinball1970 said:
When the math/science guys get argumentative I always think they may end up at Graham's number.
Or Tree 3.
The horror.
Just in case. Here are the last 500 digits of Graham's number:

$$\ldots 02425950695064738395657479136519351798334535362521430035401260267716226721604198106522631693551887803881448314065252616878509555264605107117200099709291249544378887496062882911725063001303622934916080254594614945788714278323508292421020918258967535604308699380168924988926809951016905591995119502788717830837018340236474548882222161573228010132974509273445945043433009010969280253527518332898844615089404248265018193851562535796399618993967905496638003222348723967018485186439059104575627262464195387$$
 
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  • #967
Some good news for a change -
A recent severe storm in Minnesota did irreparable damage to many homes — including the lodgings of a family of woodpeckers. But in a bit of good news, community service officers and animal care staff were able to save the four babies, CBS reported.
https://news.yahoo.com/news/police-officers-surprising-discovery-downed-001500450.html
"How cool is this! Our community service officers were called to a residence in Lexington for a downed tree that had baby woodpeckers in it," the police department wrote in a Facebook post documenting the rescue. In their photos, the branch containing the nest has been carefully sawed off and placed in the back of a police car.

From there, officers transported the nest to the nearby Roseville Wildlife Rehabilitation Center, where staff used more delicate extraction to remove all four baby woodpeckers safe and sound.

"Not everybody stops to think if there's wildlife in these downed trees and branches," CBS quoted Brittney Yohannes, communications and development director at the WRC. "Luckily woodpeckers are pretty noisy."

She said that the center rehabilitates approximately 200 woodpeckers a year — as well as other types of birds — many of which are injured from trees toppling in storms.
 
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  • #968
How to Count Every Language in India
There are at least 780.
by Sunaina KumarJune 22, 2018

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/peoples-linguistic-survey-of-india-ganesh-devy
In 1898, George A. Grierson, an Irish civil servant and philologist, undertook the first ever Linguistic Survey of India. It took Grierson 30 years to gather data on 179 languages and 544 dialects. The survey was published in 19 volumes, spanning 8,000 pages, between 1903 and 1928.

Ganesh Devy was frustrated by this lack of contemporary data, especially the discrepancies he saw in the existing numbers. Since the government wasn’t likely to start on a new survey in the near future, Devy, a former professor of English from the western state of Gujarat, launched the People’s Linguistic Survey of India in 2010. The name refers to the fact that it was the people of the country, and not the government, that embarked on this project.
. . .
So far, the PLSI has recorded 780 languages in India and 68 scripts. When Devy embarked on the mammoth project, even he did not expect to unearth that many. He says that the PLSI could not report on nearly 80 languages for various reasons, including accessibility of a given region due to remoteness or conflict, which brings the estimated total number of languages closer to 850.

the story of India’s languages is not all grim. There are plenty of other instances of linguists discovering “hidden” languages in the country. For example, in 2010, Harrison identified Koro, a Tibeto-Burman language spoken by a remote tribe in Arunachal Pradesh in northeast India. In April 2018, the linguist Panchanan Mohanty from Hyderabad University discovered two languages, Walmiki and Malhar, in remote parts of Odisha state in eastern India.

"India is one of the four most linguistically diverse countries in the world, along with Papua New Guinea, Indonesia, and Nigeria." In university (45+ years ago), I learned that China was also linguistically diverse.
 
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  • #969
After many years of hearing " x% probability of rain/snow", I finally heard a convincing explanation of what it means: Meteorologists have their probability models for rain, snow, etc., with variables x1,x2,..,xn , as inputs. They plug in the estimated such values and output a probability value for the given date.
 
  • #970
WWGD said:
After many years of hearing " x% probability of rain/snow", I finally heard a convincing explanation of what it means: Meteorologists have their probability models for rain, snow, etc., with variables x1,x2,..,xn , as inputs. They plug in the estimated such values and output a probability value for the given date.
No they look in my calender for the two days a year I have outside plans, and then commune with the Norse gods and beckon RAGNAROK
 
  • #971
Ok, I guess this is part of the " New Math". My Pen Drive has a total storage of 124 GB, yet it keeps a copy of the hard drive... with total storage of 516 GB, uncompressed. What, maybe GB here means Great Britain or something?
 
  • #972
WWGD said:
Ok, I guess this is part of the " New Math". My Pen Drive has a total storage of 124 GB, yet it keeps a copy of the hard drive... with total storage of 516 GB, uncompressed. What, maybe GB here means Great Britain or something?
Maybe a WOM drive.
 
  • #973
fresh_42 said:
Maybe a WOM drive.
From GB??
Edit: While at it, explain how Windows updates itself when it is not online. Anyone used Clonezilla?
 
  • #974
WWGD said:
Ok, I guess this is part of the " New Math". My Pen Drive has a total storage of 124 GB, yet it keeps a copy of the hard drive... with total storage of 516 GB, uncompressed. What, maybe GB here means Great Britain or something?
Rounding error.

Seriously.

Your hard drive likely has larger "allocation units" or "clusters" than your pen drive, and each file is rounded up to a whole number of clusters. You must have a lot of small files.
 
  • #975
DrGreg said:
Rounding error.

Seriously.

Your hard drive likely has larger "allocation units" or "clusters" than your pen drive, and each file is rounded up to a whole number of clusters. You must have a lot of small files.
I guess if I were to do a defrag, if possible, I would lose all the data saved in the Pen Drive, which would be restored to factory condition.
 
  • #976
WWGD said:
After many years of hearing " x% probability of rain/snow", I finally heard a convincing explanation of what it means: Meteorologists have their probability models for rain, snow, etc., with variables x1,x2,..,xn , as inputs. They plug in the estimated such values and output a probability value for the given date.
Many tyears ago, I asked someone in the field what the percentage referred to.
It came down to essentially:
It is the percentage of the area we cover that can expect the forecast event.

Even kind'a makes sense!

Cheers,
Tom
 
  • #977
Seriously, how hard is it to understand that if the name ' John' is the most popular first name , and ' Smith' is the most popular last name, that ' John Smith' isn't necessarily the most popular full name ( assuming one name and one last name only in a full name). And he took the problem from the chapter on ' Statistical Independence'.
 
  • #978
Great advertising: This overweight guy, wearing an xyz Healthcare, lighting up a cigarette while coughing up a storm. Wonder if the competition to xyz paid him.
 
  • #979
After hearing " She this", " She that" in a show about China, I finally realized they were referring to ' Xi'.
 
  • #980
You know it's hot when you have to drink your cold beer with ice 🥵
 
  • #981
Dynamics, choices, of where to live have greatly changed because of the option of remote work. Money goes further outside of Western countries.
 
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  • #983
I found an old box of face masks from the Covid days. I thought Id use them as eye covers for sleeping. Snag: I have ears. Masks were on the snug side and width of my face around /including my ears is larger than around my mouth.
 
  • #984
Astronuc said:
Faster than flying: the high-speed rail routes taking on the air industry
https://news.yahoo.com/finance/news/faster-flying-high-speed-rail-051516948.html

I've taken the Nozomi from Tokyo to Osaka, and it was much better than flying.

I've taken TGV in France rather than fly, and in the US, I've taken the train from NY City to Washington DC and back rather than fly.
Sometimes the end/destination stations of these trains conveniently connect to local subway or light rail stations that one can take to city centers or other .
 
  • #985
WWGD said:
Sometimes the end/destination stations of these trains conveniently connect to local subway or light rail stations that one can take to city centers or other .
Yes, most of the time, the main train stations are near where I need to go, or I can take a subway or metro. To take a plane would add several hours to a trip to get to airport and wait at both airports (checking luggage or checking in before flight, and collecting luggage at the other end).

When I traveled often to Germany, I would fly into Dusseldorf, then take the train to the Hauptbahnhof. The hotel where I stayed was within walking distance from the Hauptbahnhof, either in Dusseldorf or Essen. The principal client was located in Essen, and the office was right across from the train station, the hotel was on the other side of the train station. I didn't need a car. If I did, I could rent a car nearby - also walking distance from the hotels.
 
  • #986
Certainly more convenient too, than driving all the way ( when feasible). There's a time and place for road trips, which can be fun, but convenience-wise high speed trains rate higher in my opinion.
 
  • #987
Astronuc said:
Yes, most of the time, the main train stations are near where I need to go, or I can take a subway or metro. To take a plane would add several hours to a trip to get to airport and wait at both airports (checking luggage or checking in before flight, and collecting luggage at the other end).

When I traveled often to Germany, I would fly into Dusseldorf, then take the train to the Hauptbahnhof. The hotel where I stayed was within walking distance from the Hauptbahnhof, either in Dusseldorf or Essen. The principal client was located in Essen, and the office was right across from the train station, the hotel was on the other side of the train station. I didn't need a car. If I did, I could rent a car nearby - also walking distance from the hotels.
Still, many argue such systems are only economically viable in high-density regions. In the US, it may be so in the East Coast; specially the North East, and in the San Francisco to Los Angeles strip. There was one planned in the latter that is years behind schedule, with major cost overruns. Whether it should be subsidized elsewhere is a major point of contention.
 
  • #988
Got a lousy grade on a semester project. I don't imagine my other project will fare much better (grade still pending). I think my prospects of doing a Ph.d are quite low to be honest, at least if grade average is what I am judged on.
 
  • #990
WWGD said:
I found an old box of face masks from the Covid days. I thought Id use them as eye covers for sleeping. Snag: I have ears. Masks were on the snug side and width of my face around /including my ears is larger than around my mouth.
Save them for travel in congested places.
 
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  • #991
Interesting use of language: "Several Plethoras"
 
  • #992
Why you shouldn't trust a computer to generate content without human supervision:

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  • #993
I bought my phone in January 2023. This is its icon for ☎️ . A bit outdated.
 
  • #994
I see two different icons for this.
One in the post on the website on my laptop:
Screenshot 2024-08-27 at 12.24.32 PM.png

And another that is a bit more modern in the email from the website alerting me to the post:
Screenshot 2024-08-27 at 12.26.09 PM.png

!!!
 
  • #995
Kind of embarrassing. I, the supposed hot shot science guy, taking like 20 some minutes to figure out at what point between 3 and 4 p.m., the hours and minute hands on the clock form a straight line. Since at 3 p.m the needles form 90 degrees *, with the hours hand at 0 deg, and minutes needle runs 12 x as fast as the hours needle, we have a simple 12x-(90+ x)=180. But I got all mixed up considering radians, degrees, converting back and forth between different units.

*Seemed easier here to use degrees , rather than radians.
 
  • #996
Kind of bizarre when I realizee all my YT feed was from around 3 to 4 years back and so much of it turned around Covid.
 
  • #997
Ever had an idea that felt just so fundamentally radical that you thought that there has to be a flaw that you're overlooking? I having one of those moments today. I guess that I'll have to do the hard work to prove myself wrong. :bugeye:

Edit: Found the first thing that I didn't consider already but I don't think that it's a showstopper.
 
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  • #998
The clearest sign of intellectual chemistry isn't agreeing with someone. It's enjoying your disagreements with them.

Harmony is the pleasing arrangement of different tones, voices, or instruments, not the combination of identical sounds.

Creative tension makes beautiful music.
 
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  • #999
I need to remember that the next time I'm arguing with myself. :oldtongue:
 
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  • #1,000
I thought I was blazing a trail. Then , though a basic search, I realized many had tried to repop unpopped corn. Even several times.
 

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