Raqandre's question at Yahoo Answers regarding a Cauchy-Euler IVP

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The discussion revolves around solving the initial value problem (IVP) defined by the Cauchy-Euler differential equation \(x^2 y'' + xy' - y = 0\) with the initial conditions \(y(1) = 0\) and \(y'(1) = 2\). The focus is on exploring potential solutions and methods for solving this type of differential equation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a method of solving the IVP by assuming a solution of the form \(y = x^r\) and derives the general solution \(y(x) = c_1 x + c_2 x^{-1}\).
  • The same participant calculates the derivatives \(y' = c_1 - c_2 x^{-2}\) and sets up a system of equations based on the initial conditions to find \(c_1\) and \(c_2\).
  • Another participant reiterates the same method and solution, confirming the derived general solution and the specific solution \(y(x) = x - \frac{1}{x}\) that satisfies the initial conditions.

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There is no explicit disagreement in the discussion, as both participants present the same method and arrive at the same solution. However, no alternative methods or solutions are explored, leaving the discussion somewhat limited in scope.

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The discussion does not address potential limitations or alternative approaches to solving the IVP, nor does it explore the implications of the solution found.

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Here is the question:

Solve the initial value problem x^2 y" + xy' - y = 0?

solve the initial value problem x^2 y" + xy' - y = 0 with initial conditions: y(1)= 0 & y'(1) = 2

I have posted a link there to this topic so the OP can see my work.
 
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Re: raqandre's question at Yahoo! Answers regarding a Cauchy-euler IVP

Hello raqandre,

We are given the IVP:

$$x^2y"+xy'-y=0$$ where $$y'(1)=2,\,y(1)=0$$

One way to proceed is the guess a solution of the form:

$$y=x^r$$

and so:

$$y'=rx^{r-1}$$

$$y''=r(r-1)x^{r-2}$$

Now, substituting into the ODE gives us:

$$x^2\left(r(r-1)x^{r-2} \right)+x\left(rx^{r-1} \right)-\left(x^r \right)=0$$

$$x^r\left(r(r-1)+r-1 \right)=0$$

$$x^r\left(r^2-1 \right)=0$$

$$x^r(r+1)(r-1)=0$$

Thus, the general solution is:

$$y(x)=c_1x+c_2x^{-1}$$

Differentiating, we find:

$$y'(x)=c_1-c_2x^{-2}$$

Using the initial conditions, we get the linear system:

$$y'(1)=c_1-c_2=2$$

$$y(1)=c_1+c_2=0$$

From which we may determine:

$$c_1=1,\,c_2=-1$$

Thus, the solution satisfying the given IVP is:

$$y(x)=x-x^{-1}=x-\frac{1}{x}$$
 
Re: raqandre's question at Yahoo! Answers regarding a Cauchy-euler IVP

MarkFL said:
Hello raqandre,

We are given the IVP:

$$x^2y"+xy'-y=0$$ where $$y'(1)=2,\,y(1)=0$$

One way to proceed is the guess a solution of the form:

$$y=x^r$$

and so:

$$y'=rx^{r-1}$$

$$y''=r(r-1)x^{r-2}$$

Now, substituting into the ODE gives us:

$$x^2\left(r(r-1)x^{r-2} \right)+x\left(rx^{r-1} \right)-\left(x^r \right)=0$$

$$x^r\left(r(r-1)+r-1 \right)=0$$

$$x^r\left(r^2-1 \right)=0$$

$$x^r(r+1)(r-1)=0$$

Thus, the general solution is:

$$y(x)=c_1x+c_2x^{-1}$$

Differentiating, we find:

$$y'(x)=c_1-c_2x^{-2}$$

Using the initial conditions, we get the linear system:

$$y'(1)=c_1-c_2=2$$

$$y(1)=c_1+c_2=0$$

From which we may determine:

$$c_1=1,\,c_2=-1$$

Thus, the solution satisfying the given IVP is:

$$y(x)=x-x^{-1}=x-\frac{1}{x}$$

Thank you.
 
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