Rate word problem: speed of a plane in still air and distance traveled.

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The discussion centers on a word problem involving the speed of a plane in still air and the effect of wind on its travel time. The plane takes 6 hours to fly with the wind and 7 hours against it, with the speed of the plane being 13 times that of the wind. The equations set up include d=(x+c)(6) and d=(x-c)(7), where d is distance, x is the speed of the plane, and c is the wind speed. The user struggles to derive a solution due to perceived missing information, ultimately leading to a circular equation.

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Homework Statement



So, I don't have the actual problem in front of me, but from my scribbles I can make out all the information the word problem gave. A plane flies from one place to another with the wind in 6 hours, and back against the wind, in 7 hours. The speed of the plane in still air is 13 times the speed of the wind. Find the speed of the plane in still air, the speed of the wind. Might have also asked for the distance traveled, not sure, though.

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d=rt

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I set something up like d=(x+c)(6) and d=(x-c)(7) and x=13c where d is the distance traveled, x is the speed of the plane, and c is the wind working against or for the plane. Because the first two equations are equal to d, I thought about setting them equal to each other, but all I get is either x=13c or c=(1/13)(x), which I was already told in the question. I'm assuming that this is a little different than other rate problems, because they gave me the time it took to arrive and come back, but not any of the speeds... I don't know. I've tried working on this problem in many different ways but I always end up at something like 84c=84c, which is true, of course, but which tells me nothing.
 
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It feels like some information is missing from the problem. Please double check the place where you got the problem. In problems I've seen that were similar to this one, the distance was given.
 

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