Ratio of Distances using Acceleration of Gravity

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The problem involves a constant-density planet of radius R and seeks to determine the ratio of two distances from the center of the planet where the gravitational acceleration is half that at the surface. The context includes gravitational equations and density considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the locations of the two distances, considering one may be inside and the other outside the planet. There is an exploration of the gravitational acceleration equations and density relationships. Questions arise about the implications of constant density on mass and whether the mass can vary.

Discussion Status

Some participants are attempting to clarify their understanding of the gravitational equations and the implications of the planet's density. There is acknowledgment of the need to differentiate between the cases for distances inside and outside the planet. Guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of gravitational formulas.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the planet's mass and density, as well as the implications of the gravitational acceleration being defined at two different distances. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the setup and the relationships between the variables involved.

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Homework Statement



A constant-density planet of radius R has a gravitational acceleration ag =
as at its surface. There are two distances from the center of the planet at
which ag = as/2. Show that the ratio of these distances may be given by
R = 2√2


Homework Equations



ag= GM/R2

ρ=M/V


The Attempt at a Solution



This is my attempt at approaching the problem. Given that there are two distances I'm thinking that one of the distances is inside the planet while the other would be outside. I know that this is a constant density planet therefore in some fashion I must use a density equation. The problem I'm receiving though is that when I setup the ratio I simply get 1

GM/R2 = GρV/2r2

GM/R2 = Gρ(4/3)∏r13/2r12

2M/R2 = ρ(4/3)∏r1

3M/2∏R2ρ=r1

At this point I simply do the same thing for r2 then set the ratio.
This definitely doesn't feel right and I think I'm missing a key understanding to be able to completely understand this problem completely. Another idea I had was that the Rs must vary depending on where in relation I'm talking about. Could it be that the radii is R-r1 and R+r2?

Any help is much appreciated.
 
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Think about where the two distances at which ##a_g = a_s / 2## must be, in general terms, taking into account the symmetries of the problem. Then write down the expressions for ##a_g## that apply to each distance.

Your last sentence shows that you are on the right track.
 
Thanks I'll give that an attempt

Another question. Is it possible that the planet with radius R have different masses?
Ex.
GM/2R2=Gm/R2

I feel that this is wrong because of the fact that the planet is at constant density. Therefore at Radius R it must have mass M.
 
The radius and density distribution uniquely determine the mass. Ignoring such real-world things as infalling mass, of course. In other words, since in the problem the density is constant and the radius is fixed, there is only one possible mass for the planet, or for any planet with those two characteristics. But it isn't the constancy of the density per se that makes that true; any density distribution would also give a single mass, as long as it is the same for the planets under consideration.
 
What you did for r1 was correct but you can't do the same thing for r2 since r2 is not inside the planet.
 
Kabal said:
GM/R2 = GρV/2r2
No, this is backwards. as = GM/R2, and you want an r1 for which ar1 = as/2.
All that is for r1 < R. Please post your working for the r2 > R case.
 

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