RC circuits - Current and electric potential

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around analyzing an RC circuit to calculate the current through a 2Ω resistor and the electric potential difference between two points. The subject area includes circuit analysis and the application of Kirchhoff's laws.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of Kirchhoff's junction and loop rules, with attempts to label currents in different branches. Questions arise regarding the application of loop equations and the treatment of currents that do not pass through resistors.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively sharing updated drawings and reasoning through the circuit analysis. Some guidance has been offered regarding the identification of currents and the need to eliminate duplicate currents in equations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply the loop rule correctly.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of confusion regarding the number of unknowns in the equations and the implications of having too many variables. Participants are also considering the constraints imposed by the circuit's configuration and the relationships between the currents.

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Homework Statement


Given the drawing, calculate the current going through the 2Ω Resistor and then calculate the difference in electric potential from point a to b.

Homework Equations



V = IR
juction rule:
ƩI = 0 = Iin - Iout
ƩV = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I attempted to draw all the currents. The Green is from the 3Volts on the bottom, the orange is from the 12V on the top. I would think that I could use a sum of the different V=IR equations (12/4 + 3/2 + 3/2), but 6 is not the answer. I'm pretty lost clearly.
 

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For starters use just one current in each "branch", that is the current will change to another value if you continue through a junction. Label each of these i1, i2...
Lets try it with a new drawing then.
 
Here is my updated drawing. I'm confident that I found all the currents and that the junction equations are right, but the loop rule equations confuse me... I'm not sure where the currents that don't pass through resistors go in the loop equations.
 

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msemsey said:
Here is my updated drawing. I'm confident that I found all the currents and that the junction equations are right, but the loop rule equations confuse me... I'm not sure where the currents that don't pass through resistors go in the loop equations.

You have too many unknowns in your KCL equations. You should recognize, eg, that i4=i5. Note with the two equations you have, you can only solve for two unknowns so the first step you would need to take with your equations is to eliminate all the duplicate currents. Make current a property of the branch.

For your loop equations, there are two loops and two currents. You have them identified as i1 and i2. i1 flows around the bottom loop and i2 flows around the top loop. Notice, eg, that for the i1 loop, the same current i1 must flow through the battery e, the resistance R and the 2 ohm resistor. The 2 ohm resistor is special because the current i2 must also flow through it, but it is the net current that causes the voltage drop. What justifies this net current calculation is KCL.
 

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