RC Circuits, time to charge a capacitor

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The discussion revolves around an RC circuit where a capacitor is charged through a resistor. The problem specifically asks for the time at which the electric potential across the capacitor equals that across the resistor, given the capacitance and resistance values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between charge, voltage, and time in the context of charging a capacitor. Questions arise regarding the definitions of variables such as charge and EMF, and how these relate to the potential across the capacitor and resistor.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the equations governing the charging process, with some participants providing insights into the relationships between voltage, charge, and time. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, particularly regarding the potential across the components of the circuit.

Contextual Notes

Participants are examining the implications of Kirchhoff's laws in the context of the circuit, and there is some uncertainty about the specific equations to use for calculating charge and voltage at different times during the charging process.

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Homework Statement


Switch S in the figure below is closed at time t = 0, to begin charging an initially uncharged capacitor of capacitance C = 13.0 µF through a resistor of resistance R = 24.0 . At what time is the electric potential across the capacitor equal to that across the resistor?

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Homework Equations



i = dq/dt
q = CE(1-e^-t/RC)

The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't even know where to start with this one
 
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I assume that E is the EMF of the battery.

Is q the charge on the capacitor at time, t ?

How much charge would be on this capacitor of the potential difference across it was E ?
 
the charge on the capacitor would be

Q = CV = (13e-6)(E)

if the potential difference were E
 
iiiiaann said:
... At what time is the electric potential across the capacitor equal to that across the resistor? ...

At the above time, how do these two potentials compare with E , the electric potential provided by the battery?
 
SammyS said:
At the above time, how do these two potentials compare with E , the electric potential provided by the battery?

I'm not sure i follow what you are saying? Would the combination of the 2 be equal to E?
 
iiiiaann said:
I'm not sure i follow what you are saying? Would the combination of the 2 be equal to E?
Yes, according to Kirchhoff.

Since the two are equal, what is the electric potential across the capacitor ?
 
Would it just be 1/2 E?
 
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where do i go from here?
 
If the electric potential on the capacitor is E/2, then how much charge is on the capacitor?
 
  • #10
the charge is Q = CV which would be 13uF * E / 2
 
  • #11
So, solve this equation for t when q = C(E/2)

q = CE(1-e^-t/RC)
 
  • #12
C(E/2) = CE(1-e^-t/RC)
1/2 = 1 - e^-t/RC
e^-t/RC = 1/2
-t/RC = ln(1/2)
-t = ln(1/2) * RC
t = -1 * ln(1/2) * RC

t = -1 * -.6931 * 24 * 13e-6 = 0.000216 s = 0.216 ms

Thanks again for the help, these forums (you especially) are fantastic
 
  • #13
Hello, may I ask what kind of equation q = CE(1-e^-t/RC) is? Does the problem give it as the equation which determines the time to charge of the capacitor through this RC circuit? How do they get to such an equation?
 
  • #14
If you check your capacitor equations you will find a more convenient expression for the voltage across a capacitor during charging.
V = Vmax(1 - e^-t/RC) so you can calculate the voltage across the capacitor t sec after switch on.
The charge equation is the same exponential form
Q = Qmax(1-e^-t/RC)
hope this helps
 

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