Re-arranging equation: negative time for exponential

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The problem involves a sequence defined by an equation relating to exponential growth or decay, specifically with a negative growth constant. The original poster is attempting to rearrange the equation to solve for time, encountering a negative value that raises questions about the validity of the assumptions or parameters used.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the implications of a negative time value resulting from the rearrangement of the equation. Some explore the nature of the growth constant and its effect on time, while others consider the mathematical structure of the equation as a geometric series.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the nature of the equation and its solutions. There is mention of both analytical and numerical approaches to solving the problem, but no consensus has been reached regarding the validity of the negative time value or the assumptions made.

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Participants are questioning the correctness of the growth constant and its implications for the time variable. The original poster's equation is derived from a differential equation, and there is a suggestion that the maximum amount in the context of the problem may be limited, which could affect the interpretation of results.

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I have a sequence whereby
10000=100(1+e^(kt)+e^(2kt)+...+e^(39kt)) where k=-4.7947012×10^(-3) which was dervied from dy/dt=ky
Re-arranging i get 99=1+e^(kt)+e^(2kt)+...+e^(39kt), letting e^(kt)=r I put it into the computer and
i get 1.04216=r=e^-4.7947012×10^(-3)t
taking ln of both sides and dividing by the number gives a negative time value. Any help is highly appreciate.
 
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With a negative k, t has to be negative, too. That is a correct solution of the equation. If a negative time value is impossible, your equation (or k) has to be wrong.

There is an analytic solution, by the way.
 
Analytical, how so?
 
Is it by stating that, if assuming that all doses haven't decayed, the maxmimum amount is 3900 only.
 
With r=e^(kt), your equation gets 99=r^0 + r^1 + r^2 + ... + r^39
That is a geometric expression, and has a nice formula.
 
mfb said:
With r=e^(kt), your equation gets 99=r^0 + r^1 + r^2 + ... + r^39
That is a geometric expression, and has a nice formula.

Right. And that gives you a degree = 40 polynomial to solve---not easy at all, and I doubt there is an analytical formula for its solution.
 
Hmm, you are right. Well, at least it is easier to solve it numerically that way (which does not matter if a computer solves it).
 

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