Re: Entropy - Actually a question about working in Polar Coordinates

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of polar coordinate unit vectors, specifically \(\hat{r}\) and \(\hat{\theta}\), and their relationship to Cartesian coordinates. The original poster attempts to show specific relationships involving these unit vectors and their time derivatives.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the conversion of polar coordinates to Cartesian coordinates and the implications for differentiation. There are attempts to express the unit vectors in terms of Cartesian components and questions about the correctness of these expressions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and asking for clarifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding textbook references, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or understanding of the unit vectors.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the definitions and relationships of the unit vectors in polar coordinates, as well as the expectations of the homework assignment.

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show that [itex]\frac{d\hat{r}}{dt}[/itex]=[itex]\hat{θ}[/itex][itex]\dot{θ}[/itex]

also, [itex]\frac{d\hat{θ}}{dt}[/itex]=-[itex]\dot{θ}[/itex]r


i've tried finding the relationship between r and theta via turning it into Cartesian coord.s, and I've tried the S=theta r but still no luck.

S=theta r

dS/dt=d(theta)/dt r which is similar to the RHS of the second equation I'm supposed to show. but i don't know how to turn dS/dt into dtheta hat /dt
 
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What are the cartesian coordinates of those polar coordinate unit vectors? What happens when you differentiate with respect to time?
 
my appologies about the title


[itex]\hat{r}[/itex]=[itex]\hat{x}[/itex]+[itex]\hat{y}[/itex]

d[itex]\hat{r}[/itex]/dt = d([itex]\hat{x}[/itex]+[itex]\hat{y}[/itex])/dt=d[itex]\hat{x}[/itex]/dt+d[itex]\hat{y}[/itex]/dt

[itex]\hat{θ}[/itex]=?
 
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Is ##\hat x + \hat y## a unit vector? (No.)

And that is not ##\hat r##.
 
As DH is requesting, do you know how to express [itex]\hat{r}[/itex] and [itex]\hat{\theta}[/itex] in terms of [itex]\hat{x}[/itex], [itex]\hat{y}[/itex], sinθ, and cosθ?
 
oops, sorry i misread aGAiN.. i have that habbit.

please clearify this for me

[itex]\hat{x}[/itex]= the x component of [itex]\hat{r}[/itex]? if it is, i can find x.. if it's not. then i am even more lost than i thought i was.
 
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You've been given a very good hint. Look in your textbook and your class notes. This homework question was not asked out of thin air. If this is a homework problem from your textbook, that information is right there in your book. It's in the same chapter as the question is in.
 

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