Re-writing Human History: Uncovering 9.7 Million Year Old Teeth in Europe

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the discovery of 9.7 million-year-old teeth in Europe and the implications this finding may have on human history. Participants explore the validity of the claims surrounding the discovery, the methods of dating the teeth, and the overall significance of the find within the context of human evolution.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the implications of the discovery, citing the need for extraordinary proof for extraordinary claims.
  • One participant notes that the publication delay before the findings were released could lend credibility to the research, but remains doubtful.
  • Concerns are raised about the strength of the evidence used to date the teeth, particularly the reliance on the proximity to the remains of an extinct genus of horse.
  • Participants seek clarification on the specific dating methods employed to arrive at the 9.7 million-year estimate, indicating a desire for more detailed information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express skepticism regarding the findings, with multiple competing views on the validity of the evidence and the implications for human history. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the significance of the discovery.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include a lack of detailed information on the dating methods used and the assumptions underlying the dating based on the proximity to other fossil remains.

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Gads. That really is remarkable if it pans out. The fact that they held off publication for a year because they could hardly believe it, but then did publish, seems to lend credence to it, but I'm still dubious.
 
I'm more than slightly dubious. 'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof' - Carl Sagan / M Truzzi
 
The teeth were found next to the remains of an extinct genus of horse, which helped them date the teeth.
That doesn't seem like particularly strong evidence for the age of the teeth.

A preprint of the study is available here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320518472_A_new_great_ape_with_startling_resemblances_to_African_members_of_the_hominin_tribe_excavated_from_the_Mid-Vallesian_Dinotheriensande_of_Eppelsheim_First_report_Hominoidea_Miocene_MN_9_Proto-Rhine_Riv
 
No mention of the dating method used, except this: "The teeth were found next to the remains of an extinct genus of horse, which helped them date the teeth". Would like to know exactly how they arrived to the 9.7 million year estimate.
 

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