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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the emission characteristics of pulsars, particularly how a spherical object can emit radiation primarily from its poles. Participants explore the implications of strong gravitational and magnetic fields on radiation emission, questioning the nature and distribution of this emission across the pulsar's surface.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how a sphere can concentrate radiation at the poles, suggesting that strong gravity might require deformation for effective emission.
  • Another participant notes that pulsars have strong magnetic fields that focus beams of radiation to be emitted primarily at the poles.
  • A participant raises concerns about the beam width of the emitted radiation, suggesting it should be broader and questions the possibility of replicating such focused emission from a spherical source.
  • Questions are posed about whether the radio source moves across the surface of the pulsar before reaching the poles or if only the poles are responsible for the observed emission.
  • It is mentioned that the entire surface of a pulsar can act as a radio source, with the magnetic field blocking signals except at the poles, where the field is more curved, enhancing emission.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms of radiation emission from pulsars, with no consensus reached on the specifics of how emission is concentrated at the poles or the nature of the beam width.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of pulsar emissions and the varying mechanisms across different types of pulsars, indicating that assumptions about the uniformity of emission may not hold.

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The pole still has extremely strong gravity, how can a sphere suddenly concentrate the radiation at the pole to be emitted there ?

As this is the only exit, should there not be a strong deformation ? How does the radiation make it to the pole, or, is the radiation we are getting only from the small pole area, the rest of the surface does not supply any ?

Thx, newbie!
 
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The pulsar has very strong magnetic fields which concentrate the beams and only allow them out at the poles.

200px-Pulsar_schematic.svg.png

Form the wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsar
 
Thx for responding. In the picture the beam is way too thin, should the emission not be
way, way broader, (yet, we assume rotation is so fast).

1) Is there any possibility of replicating a magnetic-field controlled radiation emission from a sphere to form a so finely-focused beam ? (The absence of the field must be tube shaped !)

2) Is the radio-source "creeping along" the rest of the surface before it hits the poles ?

3) Or, are we only seeing the emission of the poles, nothing else.

(No, I don't think there are little green men, they would choose a pattern..)

I find astronomy, (compared to the lifesciences) highly, highly deductive, it's a bit
like a fantasy field...
 
ndvcxk said:
Thx for responding. In the picture the beam is way too thin, should the emission not be
way, way broader, (yet, we assume rotation is so fast).
The beam width would depend on the details of the magnetic field - not sure how you would measure it directly. If you knew the distance to the pulsar and measured th epulse width you could get the angle - but only if you knew the beam was aimed directly at you and so you were getting the full width. You can see the beam from an X-ray pulsar in a nebula where it lights up the surrounding gas.

2) Is the radio-source "creeping along" the rest of the surface before it hits the poles ?
3) Or, are we only seeing the emission of the poles, nothing else.
The mechanism is different in different types of pulsar but basically the whole surface is a radio source. Stuff hitting the surface is turned into a plasma that is trapped by the field, the charged plasma moving in a curved field gives you radio emission. The magnetic field blocks the radio signal everywhere except at the poles. The field at the poles is also more curved which gives the most emission.


I find astronomy, (compared to the lifesciences) highly, highly deductive, it's a bit
like a fantasy field...
There are more weird objects to consider but they are also very simple in some sense. YOu have isolated objects on their own that you can study individually - much simpler than the interrelated mechanisms in biology.
 

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