Ready to Explore the Updated Edition of Black Holes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the updated edition of the book "Black Holes" by Prof. Edwin F. Taylor, focusing on its accessibility and the availability of electronic drafts. Participants share their experiences with the first edition and express interest in the new material, while also addressing issues related to accessing the draft version online.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants found the first edition of the book to be a helpful introduction to general relativity (GR), especially for those not well-versed in advanced mathematics.
  • Prof. Edwin F. Taylor has made electronic drafts of the second edition available, although access issues have been reported by some users.
  • One participant noted that the link to the draft version appeared to be dead and questioned whether the second edition was ready for publication.
  • Others suggested that access issues might be temporary or related to individual internet problems.
  • Some participants reported successfully accessing the links, while others continued to experience difficulties, leading to humorous speculation about a "conspiracy."
  • There were mentions of alternative methods to download the files, such as using specific download managers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of the first edition and express interest in the second edition, but there is no consensus on the accessibility of the electronic drafts, with multiple competing views on whether the links are functioning properly.

Contextual Notes

Some participants have experienced varying levels of success in accessing the draft materials, indicating potential issues with internet connectivity or site availability that remain unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in general relativity, those looking for accessible educational resources in physics, and individuals seeking updates on new editions of academic texts may find this discussion relevant.

DanP
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The first edition for this book was a nice primer to GR for ppl like me who are far from mastering the advanced math required to in deep understanding of GR.

Prof. Edwin F. Taylor now has a drop site for electronic drafts of the second edition of the book, improved and updated with new material. You can find the material at:

http://exploringblackholes.com/

and also, a "reviewer briefing" here:

http://www.eftaylor.com/comments/

I personally have enjoyed the 1st edition tremendously.
 
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Thank you! The tips for writing were entertaining!

And Taylor's "ReadingMemos" was very good:

We dance 'round in a ring and suppose,
But the secret sits in the middle and knows - Robert Frost

The student sits in the middle. The student knows. Why not ask, then learn ourselves - from the only person who can teach us?
 
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DanP said:
The first edition for this book was a nice primer to GR for ppl like me who are far from mastering the advanced math required to in deep understanding of GR.

Prof. Edwin F. Taylor now has a drop site for electronic drafts of the second edition of the book, improved and updated with new material. You can find the material at:

http://exploringblackholes.com/

and also, a "reviewer briefing" here:

http://www.eftaylor.com/comments/

I personally have enjoyed the 1st edition tremendously.

The link to the draft version seems to be dead now. Has it been closed? Is the second edition ready for publication?
 
Nope, it aint closed.


Probably it was just a transitory downtime, or you had some routing issues.

Dan
 
DanP said:
Nope, it aint closed.


Probably it was just a transitory downtime, or you had some routing issues.

Dan

I just tried it again and I am still having "issues" i.e a blank page and a "waiting for http..." message. It has been a couple of days now that I get no response. Is there an alternative link or a dowloadable file somewhere?
 
I just tried DanP's links, and, for me, they work.
 
hmmmm... works for for everyone but me then :frown:

... must be a conspiracy

tried deleting all inernet history and cookies..that didn't work either..
 
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I could just see the links, but not download the files. It finally worked with "DownThemAll".
 
Strange thing is that I could see the site about a week ago on this same PC.

I will have to go to an internet cafe in dark glasses, hat and gloves and sign in anonymously.
 
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Do you want the files relayed somehow to you ? PM if interested
 

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