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The discussion revolves around recommendations for introductory resources in quantum mechanics (QM), focusing on the necessary mathematical background and the challenges faced by learners. Participants share their experiences with specific books and courses, as well as the prerequisites for understanding QM concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions struggling with "Introduction to Quantum Mechanics" by David J. Griffiths and emphasizes the importance of understanding the math involved.
  • Another participant notes that a background in linear algebra, calculus, and differential equations is essential for grasping QM concepts.
  • A suggestion is made to read Schaum's outlines to enhance understanding of QM.
  • A link is provided to a course on QM that includes intuitive views of the math, highlighting the need for complex numbers and matrices.
  • Online lectures from Oxford University are recommended as a valuable resource for learning QM.
  • One participant advises that Griffiths' book requires careful reading and familiarity with mathematical notation, particularly linear algebra concepts like complex conjugates.
  • Another participant asserts that QM is a junior/senior level course, requiring 2-3 years of college math and physics before one can effectively engage with Griffiths' book.
  • Some participants express that without a strong background in classical mechanics and mathematics, learning QM may be very challenging.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of a solid mathematical foundation for studying QM, but there are differing views on the appropriate level of study and the accessibility of Griffiths' book for first-year students. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for beginners.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various prerequisites and resources, but there is no consensus on a singular path to mastering QM, reflecting the complexity and individual nature of learning in this field.

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Hi guys, The other day I was struggling to to grasp some of the concepts in QM. I realized I would never understand without understanding the math. From what I know the following book is what they give to first year university students.

I'm on page 20, and I am struggling. But I'm determined to finish it even if I don't understand all the math.
Someone join me in struggling!Introduction to Quantum Mechanics - 2nd edition - by David_J._Griffiths
 
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Linear Algebra, Calculus, and Differential Equations are basically the math background required, from what I recall. Knowing classical physics wouldn't hurt either (which itself requires calc and diff eq to understand rigorously).
 
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http://theoreticalminimum.com/courses has a course in QM.

I'm slogging through the entanglement lecture, which includes an intuitive view of the math. You'll need complex numbers and Matrices, but he makes it as painless as is possible and teaches a lot as he goes (in the entanglement class, anyway).
 
Oxford university has a very good series of online lectures on QM. It shouldn't be too hard to find.
 
Griffiths is a good book, but from experience you can't just blow through it as if you're reading a Dr. Seuss book, especially if you find some of the notation unfamiliar. Math is a language and like any language you have to first learn its notations. For starters, you should immediately recognize <j> as an average value of ALL j-values and understand the reason for normalization in statistics. Don't be afraid to read each sub-chapter over and over until you have a solid understanding of the material presented. With QM, this is VERY VERY important! Griffiths does a decent job at holding your hand as much as possible, but QM is not exactly intuitive and requires a strong grasp of math to DO effectively. I'm not exactly sure what part of the material you find difficult, but I'd guess that your understanding of linear algebra (specifically the meaning and purpose of "complex conjugates" like psi*) may not be strong enough at the moment. I STRONGLY suggest reading the appendix and fully understanding the notations and mathematical methods discussed if you want to make any sense of the subject. Maybe ask your current prof or a math prof for an introductory book on Linear Algebra that you can use for practice problems. Good luck and beware...even the simplest understanding of QM will permanently change your perception of reality, hopefully for the better.
 
lyncsta said:
Hi guys, The other day I was struggling to to grasp some of the concepts in QM. I realized I would never understand without understanding the math. From what I know the following book is what they give to first year university students.

I'm on page 20, and I am struggling. But I'm determined to finish it even if I don't understand all the math.
Someone join me in struggling!


Introduction to Quantum Mechanics - 2nd edition - by David_J._Griffiths

Without background of classical mechanics and mathematical knowledge, you can't learn QM. I suggest you give up.
 
For physics major students who study hard, it is not very difficult to learn. If you lack relative background, please master them. Just do it. After that, you can learn.
 
Quantum mechanics is a junior/senior level university course, not a first year course. You need 2-3 years of college math and physics before you can really make any progress through that book.
 

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