Record Player Physics

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The discussion centers on the physics of record players, particularly the vibrations involved in audio playback. Key topics include the movement of the needle along the record grooves, which converts mechanical energy into electrical signals, and the encoding of audio information in these grooves. Participants suggest exploring sources of vibration and resonance, as well as the impact of different vibrational modes on audio quality. Recommendations for further research include examining phono cartridge manufacturers and studying concepts like Fourier analysis and mass-spring-damper systems. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding both mechanical and electrical components in the record player system.
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Hi, I have a project for my Dynamics and Vibrations class and I wanted to do it on the vibrations of a record player. Does anyone know what equations would be most relevant? I know this is a very general question but the project is large so I'm still figuring it out! Any thoughts are super appreciated.
 
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Welcome to PF.

What have you found in your research so far? What would be some of the sources of vibrations, and what-all could contribute to resonances? What would different vibrational modes do in terms of distorting the audio pickup/playback signal?
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to PF.

What have you found in your research so far? What would be some of the sources of vibrations, and what-all could contribute to resonances? What would different vibrational modes do in terms of distorting the audio pickup/playback signal?
I've found that the needle moves along the ridges which causes it to move up and down and move a magnet attached to the cantilever to vibrate between 2 coils to convert the mechincal energy to electrical energy
 
Sure, but how is that audio information encoded in those grooves? Up/down or sideways or a combination? How is stereo information encoded in a single groove with a single pickup needle?

And what are the most common vibration noise sources in such a mechanical system?
 
its a combination but I believe up and down for non-stereo systems
 
berkeman said:
What have you found in your research so far? What would be some of the sources of vibrations, and what-all could contribute to resonances? What would different vibrational modes do in terms of distorting the audio pickup/playback signal?
berkeman said:
And what are the most common vibration noise sources in such a mechanical system?
 
Hi @OutdoorInnovator , and welcome to PF!
You may want to check out information from the phono cartridge manufacturers, i can think of Ortofon, Shure, Grado off the top of my head. I haven't looked, but they may have tech info on their websites.

I'm not sure of your academic level. You might find Fourier analysis interesting, this is a way of breaking complex waveforms (like music) into sums of simple sine waves.
 
OutdoorInnovator said:
I have a project for my Dynamics and Vibrations class
Since Dynamics and Vibration, you should look up mass-spring-damper system, and mechanical-electrical transducers.

The cartridge pickup is a mechanical system that vibrates, with the attached coil connected to an electrical system that can amplify the signal. Or the 'needle' can be directly connected to a horn to produce sound waves.

Apparently, this is a simplified model. ( an electrical representation of the mass-spring-damper )
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Engineering_Acoustics/Phonograph_Sound_Reproduction
 

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