Rectangular function & Inequalities

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The discussion focuses on manipulating the rectangular function and proving the equivalence of two expressions: ∏(x²) and ∏(x/√2). The rectangular function is defined such that ∏(x) equals 1 if |x| < 1/2 and 0 otherwise. The user attempts to show that ∏(x²) = ∏(x/√2) by analyzing the inequalities involved, ultimately realizing that the absolute values in the function's definition are crucial for the proof. The conclusion is that both expressions can be shown to be equivalent when considering the absolute values, confirming the initial assertion.
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Note: I think I solved this while writing this topic, did not want to scrap it! if you think its wrong let me know!

I am trying to manipulate the rectangular function with different arguments and came across a confusing one
Trying to show: \prod (x^2) = \prod (\frac{x}{\sqrt{2}})
Recall that the rectangular function is given by:
\prod (x) = \begin{cases} 1 &amp; if |x| &lt; 1/2 \\ 0 &amp; if |x| &gt;1/2 \end{cases}
if x -> x/T then
as a general case:
\prod (\frac{x}{T}) = \begin{cases} 1 &amp; if |x| &lt; T/2 \\ 0 &amp; if |x| &gt;T/2 \end{cases}

this still gives the the rect function a width of T by solving
-T/2 &lt; x &lt; T/2
How about an argument such as

x \rightarrow x^2
trying to solve this ineqality
\begin{eqnarray} |x^2| &amp; &lt; &amp; 1/2 \ if x \in R \\ x^2-1/2 &amp; &lt; &amp; 0 \\ -\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} &lt; x &amp; &lt; &amp; \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \\ -\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2} &lt; x &amp; &lt; &amp; \frac{\sqrt{2}}{2} \\ -\frac{1}{2} &lt; \frac{x}{\sqrt{2}} &amp; &lt; &amp; \frac{1}{2} \\ | \frac{x}{\sqrt{2}} |&lt; | \frac{1}{2} | \end{eqnarray}
Therefore:
\prod (x^2) = \prod (\frac{x}{\sqrt{2}})
 
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radiator said:
Note: I think I solved this while writing this topic, did not want to scrap it! if you think its wrong let me know!

I am trying to manipulate the rectangular function with different arguments and came across a confusing one
Trying to show: \prod (x^2) = \prod (\frac{x}{\sqrt{2}})
Recall that the rectangular function is given by:
\prod (x) = \begin{cases} 1 &amp; if |x| &lt; 1/2 \\ 0 &amp; if |x| &gt;1/2 \end{cases}
if x -> x/T then
as a general case:
\prod (\frac{x}{T}) = \begin{cases} 1 &amp; if |x| &lt; T/2 \\ 0 &amp; if |x| &gt;T/2 \end{cases}

this still gives the the rect function a width of T by solving
-T/2 &lt; x &lt; T/2
How about an argument such as

x \rightarrow x^2
trying to solve this ineqality
\begin{eqnarray} |x^2| &amp; &lt; &amp; 1/2 \ if x \in R \\ x^2-1/2 &amp; &lt; &amp; 0 \\ -\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} &lt; x &amp; &lt; &amp; \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \\ -\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2} &lt; x &amp; &lt; &amp; \frac{\sqrt{2}}{2} \\ -\frac{1}{2} &lt; \frac{x}{\sqrt{2}} &amp; &lt; &amp; \frac{1}{2} \\ | \frac{x}{\sqrt{2}} |&lt; | \frac{1}{2} | \end{eqnarray}
Therefore:
\prod (x^2) = \prod (\frac{x}{\sqrt{2}})

[STRIKE]They're not the same.[/STRIKE]
For ∏(x2), ∏(x2) = 1 if x2 < 1/2
The inequality on the right is equivalent to -1/√2 < x < 1/√2.

So ∏(x2) = 1 for x ##\in## (-1/√2, 1/√2).

For ∏(x/√2), ∏(x/√2) = 1 if x/√2 < 1/2.

Edit: I didn't notice that the ∏ function used absolute values.

[STRIKE]This inequality is equivalent to x < 1/√2.
Here ∏(x/√2) = 1 if x ##\in## (-∞, 1/√2).[/STRIKE]
 
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Mark44 said:
For ∏(x/√2), ∏(x/√2) = 1 if x/√2 < 1/2.
This inequality is equivalent to x < 1/√2.

why don't we put the argument x/√2 in an absolute value and have it
|\frac{x}{\sqrt{2}}|&lt; \frac{1}{2}

I am kind of confused now! how do we prove them to be the same?
 
Sorry, I missed the absolute values in your function definition. What you have is fine.
 
so that would justify them to be equivalent ? since the absolute value would mean that
-1/2 &lt; x/\sqrt{2} &lt; 1/2
 
Thanks Mark, Really appreciate it :)
 

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