Rectilineal movement of particle

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The discussion revolves around the rectilinear movement of a particle, focusing on finding critical points and local extrema using algebraic methods and graphical representation. Participants are exploring the relationship between time, velocity, and position in the context of a second-degree equation.

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  • Participants discuss the need for critical points and local extrema, questioning whether to use graphical methods or algebraic approaches. There are attempts to clarify how to interpret results and derive values from equations, particularly regarding the maximum displacement.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on finding local extrema and checking for maxima. Some participants express uncertainty about the interpretation of results and the graphical representation of the particle's trajectory.

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There is mention of the teacher's emphasis on critical points and the need for additional graphics, as well as uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the particle's trajectory and the results obtained from the equations.

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consider particles with a motion given by: x= 6t^2-t^3 and make a excel graphic. Obtain maximum velocity, maximum aceleration and maximun displaiment
Relevant Equations
d/dv
I tried to resolve this problem with youtube tutorials help, but, i have a many wrong results. The teacher says that the problem requires critics points, so i know that for that points i need a second grade ecuation, but i don't know how interpreter that points. My results:
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PD: I don't know how make a MRU graphic in excel.
 
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It is not clear to me whether you are asked to obtain the answers by means of a graph, or whether you are supposed to use algebra and the graph is extra.
For each of the three maxima you are asked for, you have the right answers in your samples. But that is unreliable - you have no easy way to see whether higher values might occur elsewhere.
To get these algebraically you have to do the following:
- find local extrema by taking the derivative to be zero; e.g. for max displacement look for when its derivative (the velocity) is zero. 12t-3t2=0, t=4, x=32.
- check which extrema are maxima, not minima
- check whether a boundary value (in this case only t=0) gives a greater value than the local maxima.
 
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haruspex said:
It is not clear to me whether you are asked to obtain the answers by means of a graph, or whether you are supposed to use algebra and the graph is extra.
For each of the three maxima you are asked for, you have the right answers in your samples. But that is unreliable - you have no easy way to see whether higher values might occur elsewhere.
To get these algebraically you have to do the following:
- find local extrema by taking the derivative to be zero; e.g. for max displacement look for when its derivative (the velocity) is zero. 12t-3t2=0, t=4, x=32.
- check which extrema are maxima, not minima
- check whether a boundary value (in this case only t=0) gives a greater value than the local maxima.
I have to make three extra graphics, i suposed that is time vs velocity, aceleration and position.
yes, i see in a basic hand graphic that local extreme its maxima. I have a question about the x=32, ¿how? i know how obtain t=4 but not that 32.
The teacher mencionated that something curious is happening with the particle trayectory, so i guess that i can see that in the excel graphic, but i don't know how interprete it.
 
Krokodrile said:
i know how obtain t=4 but not that 32.
Just plug t=4 into the expression for x.
 

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