Doubt about the 2nd position vector direction in a particle's movement

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the direction of a second position vector in a particle's movement, specifically in a two-dimensional coordinate system. The original poster describes the first vector pointing west and explores the possible orientations of the second vector relative to this direction.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the phrase "40º to the south with respect to the original direction" and how it affects the orientation of the second vector. There are differing interpretations regarding whether the second vector continues to the left or has alternative valid orientations.

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Some participants express confidence in a specific interpretation of the vector directions, while others raise questions about the ambiguity of the problem statement. There is a mix of agreement and differing views on the correct approach to visualizing the second vector.

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The original poster mentions a need for clarity due to past performance in exams and the constraints of limited time during assessments. This context may influence the urgency and depth of the discussion.

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Homework Statement
We drive west at 75 km/h for 20 minutes and then follow a road that is oriented 40º to the south with respect to the original direction, driving at 90 km/h for some other 40 minutes. Calculate:
a) Total displacement
b) Celerity and velocity (vectorial) for all the travel
c) Draw a diagram of all the travel, including the length of each part of the displacement
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Basic kinematics
I have not tried to make any calculation. It's nonsense, because I don't understand the statement. The first vector points to the west. Given a two dimensional coordinate system, the first vector is pointing to the left. I imagine geographical coordinates, north (+y), south (-y), west (-x), and east (+x). I think the first movement, in this coordinate system, is west (-x). But the second vector I think it can be drawn two ways; I mean that I can draw the second vector two valid ways, both starting at the end of the first vector: one, forward to the left, and down 40 degrees respect to the -x axis; and the second valid choice is to draw it backwards, I mean 40º respect the -x axis, but to the right. In this last choice, the car is also moving south, but turns back.
In both cases, the second vector moves 40 degrees downwards; but I think there are two possible choices respect the y axis: one pointing back to it; and the second (and also valid) following to the west.
Thanks!
 
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When I read it, I envision the second vector going towards the left.

I understand your point and thought the same thing when reading through the problem statement. However, given that it just says "40º to the south with respect to the original direction", it suggests to me that it continues to the left.
 
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Master1022 said:
When I read it, I envision the second vector going towards the left.
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“... a road that is oriented 40º to the south with respect to the original direction.”
 
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@Lnewqban is right, there is no ambiguity here. A direction is represented by a vector (usually a unit vector), so you can translate 'original direction' to 'a unit vector pointing West'. There is then only one option!
 
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Perfect! No doubt. The second vector must point west.
I am taking particular classes, to ensure a better result in september. In july I failed (3.3 over 10). I will need all the help available. They only give 1 hour, not a second more, to make the exam.
Good information that you've given.
Thanks!
 
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