Reflection of particle between Inertial frames in SR

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The discussion revolves around a problem in special relativity involving the reflection of a particle between two inertial frames. The original poster describes a scenario where a wall is at rest in one frame (S') and a particle moves in the x'y' plane, striking the wall and reflecting according to the law of reflection.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to redefine the origin of frame S to simplify the analysis of the wall's position in both frames. They explore the transformation of velocities and the calculation of angles of incidence and reflection in both frames. Some participants question the implications of the wall's tilt and the effects of Lorentz contraction on the angles.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants agreeing on the principle that the angles of incidence and reflection are frame-dependent due to relativistic effects. There is acknowledgment of the complexity introduced by the wall's tilt and the transformation of velocities, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the Lorentz factor in the calculations and the potential challenges posed by the wall's motion and orientation in different frames. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach and seeks validation or alternative methods.

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Homework Statement


Suppose a frame S' is related to S by a boost in the y direction by v. Imagine a wall is at rest in the S' frame along the line y'=-x'. Consider a particle moving in the x'y' plane that strikes the surface and is reflected by the usual law of reflection θ'i=θ'r. Find the relation between the incident and reflected angles in the S frame as well as the initial and final velocity of the particle in the S frame.

Homework Equations


Velocity addition, lorentz contraction

The Attempt at a Solution


I assumed for simplicity that, although the wall is in S' and moving, I would always be able to redifine the S origin so that the wall passes through the origin in both frames. Now the wall itself will be contracted in the y direction, so the equation of the wall in the S frame is y/β=-x (I'm using beta for the lorentz factor because gamma looks too similar to y). To find the angle of reflection and incidence in the S' frame I need a normal vector to the wall, which is easily obtained to be 1/√2*(i'+j'). Now the velocity of the particle in the S' frame is

u'
=uxi'+uyj'
After striking the wall and being reflected, the particle's velocity will be reflected and reversed about the normal to the wall so that after contact the new velocity will be u=-uyi'-uxj'.
Now the incident and reflected angles can be calculated (and are equal in this frame) by cosθ=n*u/|u|
where n is the unit normal to the wall 1/√2*(i'+j')

To calculate the angles in the S frame we have to transform the initial and final velocities of the particles and then dot them with the NEW normal to the wall which can be obtained from y/β=-x, remembering that I'm using beta for the lorentz factor instead of gamma. The normal to the wall in this frame can be considered by a point on the perpendicular line y=x/β considering when x=1 y=1/β the normalized unit vector along this line is then

(i+1/βj)/((1/β)2+1)1/2
Once I transform the above velocities via the addition formula and dot it with this normal vector, will I arrive at the correct answer? Is there an easier way to arrive at this result if it is correct? Forgive me for not typing the entire solution, but I feel like this is already in the realm of tldr.
 
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By the principle of relativity θi = θr must be true, but θ may change, now the only difference between the two from is the tilt of the wall (let's forget about time for a while), I took at what you did and I totally agree with it, the great conclusion here is that angle is a frame dependent due to the contraction which itself is due to the relativity of sumiltaneity :)
 
thank you :)
 

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